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  • #16
    Re: Allen back in full training.

    Originally posted by City123 View Post
    For what reason?
    To create a barrier in front of our centre-backs. Davies is a full-back and he should be able to slot into that position. The game against England will be all about stopping them scoring, while hoping to sneak a goal on the break.

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    • #17
      Re: Allen back in full training.

      Originally posted by goats View Post
      Why?
      Because Iran are crap.

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      • #18
        Re: Allen back in full training.

        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
        To create a barrier in front of our centre-backs. Davies is a full-back and he should be able to slot into that position. The game against England will be all about stopping them scoring, while hoping to sneak a goal on the break.
        I would rather go out and try to scare the shit out of them.
        We shouldn't have a negative attitude going into that game, we have players that can cause them serious problems.

        Southgate will be wary of what we have, in the same way we're wary of what they have.

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        • #19
          Re: Allen back in full training.

          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
          To create a barrier in front of our centre-backs. Davies is a full-back and he should be able to slot into that position. The game against England will be all about stopping them scoring, while hoping to sneak a goal on the break.
          terrible idea

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          • #20
            Re: Allen back in full training.

            Originally posted by Ninja View Post
            I would rather go out and try to scare the shit out of them.
            We shouldn't have a negative attitude going into that game, we have players that can cause them serious problems.

            Southgate will be wary of what we have, in the same way we're wary of what they have.
            Unfortunately you can't do that with the front six players that they have

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            • #21
              Re: Allen back in full training.

              Originally posted by Rjk View Post
              terrible idea
              What's your idea then Columbo? England are going to absolutely dominate us in midfield in we play Ampadu and A.N. Other in midfield again.

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              • #22
                Re: Allen back in full training.

                Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                To create a barrier in front of our centre-backs. Davies is a full-back and he should be able to slot into that position. The game against England will be all about stopping them scoring, while hoping to sneak a goal on the break.
                Why? They're totally different positions

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                • #23
                  Re: Allen back in full training.

                  Originally posted by City123 View Post
                  Why? They're totally different positions
                  To stop their players bursting through unopposed and causing havoc :hehe: The only way we are going through is if we can restrict England's goal scoring opportunities.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Allen back in full training.

                    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                    Unfortunately you can't do that with the front six players that they have
                    I would be very wary of Moore, Bale, Wilson, Johnson, Ramsey etc.
                    You can't allow yourselves to be complacent against seemingly weaker teams, but you also HAVE to have confidence and self-belief against seemingly stronger teams.

                    This is tournament football, anything can happen as Iran and Japan have already shown. I'd like to see us fight, not bend over by playing full-backs in key defensive midfield roles.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Allen back in full training.

                      Originally posted by Ninja View Post
                      I would be very wary of Moore, Bale, Wilson, Johnson, Ramsey etc.
                      You can't allow yourselves to be complacent against seemingly weaker teams, but you also HAVE to have confidence and self-belief against seemingly stronger teams.

                      This is tournament football, anything can happen as Iran and Japan have already shown. I'd like to see us fight, not bend over by playing full-backs in key defensive midfield roles.
                      We have an obvious weakness which England will be targeting, and a CDM double pivot still allows our full-backs to bomb forward.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Allen back in full training.

                        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                        We have an obvious weakness which England will be targeting, and a CDM double pivot still allows the full-backs to bomb forward.
                        I don't disagree with a 2-man sitting, central midfield. I disagree about sticking full-backs in there though, as does everyone else clearly.

                        For me it would be Ampadu and Ramsey and even that is risky as Ramsey's not exactly a defensive midfielder per se.
                        However, you do have to take some risk in tournaments like this, and Ramsey will work hard for the cause along with spraying balls around for fun in a deeper position.

                        The likes of Rodon and Mepham need confidence built before the England game so it's a great opportunity for us to do that. Keep a clean sheet against Iran and it will do wonders for them.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Allen back in full training.

                          PS, I meant Saudi not Iran in my last but one post but couldn't edit.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Allen back in full training.

                            Originally posted by Ninja View Post
                            I don't disagree with a 2-man sitting, central midfield. I disagree about sticking full-backs in there though, as does everyone else clearly.

                            For me it would be Ampadu and Ramsey and even that is risky as Ramsey's not exactly a defensive midfielder per se.
                            However, you do have to take some risk in tournaments like this, and Ramsey will work hard for the cause along with spraying balls around for fun in a deeper position.

                            The likes of Rodon and Mepham need confidence built before the England game so it's a great opportunity for us to do that. Keep a clean sheet against Iran and it will do wonders for them.
                            Loads of full-back have played in midfield and vice versa. It's actually a hybrid role that I envisage which utilises Davies' defensive abilities, and he is a decent footballer when he is on the ball, which we have seen many times when he goes forward. Ampadu & Davies can also drop into the backline in-game or cover for the fullbacks when required, as they are both versatile players.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Allen back in full training.

                              Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                              Loads of full-back have played in midfield and vice versa. It's actually a hybrid role that I envisage which utilises Davies' defensive abilities, and he is a decent footballer when he is on the ball, which we have seen many times when he goes forward. Ampadu & Davies can also drop into the backline in-game or cover for the fullbacks when required.
                              Give it up, nobody is having any of it :hehe:

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                              • #30
                                Re: Allen back in full training.

                                Originally posted by Ninja View Post
                                Give it up, nobody is having any of it :hehe:
                                I've noticed that nobody has the ability to think outside of the box, and I hope I don't have to bump this thread next Tuesday

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