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  • #31
    Re: Allen back in full training.

    When has Ben Davies ever played midfield? He's our best defender, keep him there! I get its Iran, but I think we'll be silly to underestimate them.

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    • #32
      Re: Allen back in full training.

      Originally posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
      When has Ben Davies ever played midfield? He's our best defender, keep him there! I get its Iran, but I think we'll be silly to underestimate them.
      We're talking about the England game, and he'll be doing exactly the same things, only a few yards further forward to stop our center-backs getting swarmed.

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      • #33
        Re: Allen back in full training.

        My last word ...
        Ward

        Roberts - Mepham - Rodon - Williams

        Ampadu - Davies

        Bale - Ramey - Johnson

        Moore

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        • #34
          Re: Allen back in full training.

          Team against Iran
          Hennessey/Ward
          Back 4 of Roberts, Rodon, Davies, N. Williams

          Middle 3 of Ampadu, Allen, Morrell

          Between midfield and the front 2, Ramsey

          Front 2 of Moore and James/Johnson

          I wouldn’t start Bale, as he’s been booked, so take a bit of pressure off him

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          • #35
            Re: Allen back in full training.

            Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
            To stop their players bursting through unopposed and causing havoc :hehe: The only way we are going through is if we can restrict England's goal scoring opportunities.
            So to stop England's players bombing forward unopposed, your plan is to remove our best defender from his most comfortable position, thereby weakening the defence, and playing him in a position he has never played before at the professional level? A position which requires a different skillset and will see him in areas of the pitch that he isn't used to being in and having to do things he isn't used to, in what could be one of the most important games of his career. And you want him to do that after, what, 2 days of training in this new position?

            Genius.

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            • #36
              Re: Allen back in full training.

              Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
              My last word ...
              Ward

              Roberts - Mepham - Rodon - Williams

              Ampadu - Davies

              Bale - Ramey - Johnson

              Moore

              swap Rodon for Davis and you might have something

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              • #37
                Re: Allen back in full training.

                Originally posted by City123 View Post
                So to stop England's players bombing forward unopposed, your plan is to remove our best defender from his most comfortable position, thereby weakening the defence, and playing him in a position he has never played before at the professional level? A position which requires a different skillset and will see him in areas of the pitch that he isn't used to being in and having to do things he isn't used to, in what could be one of the most important games of his career. And you want him to do that after, what, 2 days of training in this new position?

                Genius.

                I think that sums it up pretty well LOL
                Absolute madness to play Ben Davies anywhere but in defence

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                • #38
                  Re: Allen back in full training.

                  Originally posted by City123 View Post
                  So to stop England's players bombing forward unopposed, your plan is to remove our best defender from his most comfortable position, thereby weakening the defence, and playing him in a position he has never played before at the professional level? A position which requires a different skillset and will see him in areas of the pitch that he isn't used to being in and having to do things he isn't used to, in what could be one of the most important games of his career. And you want him to do that after, what, 2 days of training in this new position?

                  Genius.
                  Now you know why I wanted to bring Davies into a double defensive pivot with Ampadu. I knew England would exploit this glaring weakness, but I didn't think Iran would do it too.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Allen back in full training.

                    Legs are gone, shame did us proud for years.

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                    • #40
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                      After today's game, he should be dropped on a permanent basis. Two mistakes, and two goals conceded as a direct result of his errors. I can't figure out why Page thought it would be a good ida to bring on an unfit Allen in the first place. An awful decision, and sadly, it wasn't the only one.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Allen back in full training.

                        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                        Now you know why I wanted to bring Davies into a double defensive pivot with Ampadu. I knew England would exploit this glaring weakness, but I didn't think Iran would do it too.
                        :hehe: :hehe:

                        The idea that moving someone into a position they've never played before in such an important match would have stopped us losing is absolutely mad and you know it. Joe Morrell probably should have played alongside Ampadu with one of Wilson or Ramsey ahead of them. I'm quite surprised at Morrell's lack of involvement as he was a mainstay of the side for some time

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                        • #42
                          Re: Allen back in full training.

                          Originally posted by City123 View Post
                          :hehe: :hehe:

                          The idea that moving someone into a position they've never played before in such an important match would have stopped us losing is absolutely mad and you know it. Joe Morrell probably should have played alongside Ampadu with one of Wilson or Ramsey ahead of them. I'm quite surprised at Morrell's lack of involvement as he was a mainstay of the side for some time
                          Desperation mate. With our non-existent statuesque high press we need someone with a bit of presence. Any combination of Ampadu/Ramsey/Allan has already failed spectacularly, and now you want to put a 5'2" player there? Pure madness mate. Only Davies next to Ampadu can hold back an England onslaught, and a repeat performance of the previous two games.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Allen back in full training.

                            Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                            Desperation mate. With our non-existent statuesque high press we need someone with a bit of presence. Any combination of Ampadu/Ramsey/Allan has already failed spectacularly, and now you want to put a 5'2" player there? Pure madness mate. Only Davies next to Ampadu can hold back an England onslaught, and a repeat performance of the previous two games.
                            Yes, I would like to play an actual midfielder in midfield rather than someone who has never played there before

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                            • #44
                              Re: Allen back in full training.

                              Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                              Desperation mate. With our non-existent statuesque high press we need someone with a bit of presence. Any combination of Ampadu/Ramsey/Allan has already failed spectacularly, and now you want to put a 5'2" player there? Pure madness mate. Only Davies next to Ampadu can hold back an England onslaught, and a repeat performance of the previous two games.
                              When did an Allen/Ampadu combination “fail spectacularly”?

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                              • #45
                                Re: Allen back in full training.

                                Originally posted by City123 View Post
                                Yes, I would like to play an actual midfielder in midfield rather than someone who has never played there before
                                Ok, let's go with your system and if we are swamped in midfield again, I'm taking it as proof that you don't know what you are talking about. Good luck!

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