FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

You can't win games with 9 men. Bale and Ramsey should be ashamed of how poor they have been. As for Roberts what a poof. Didn't fancy it. At least Ramsey fought. I'll give him that.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

Page has to step down after this unless we rise like Lazzarus

Poor selection and failure to act

[J R Hartley]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

I'd give the manager job to J R Hartley, it was a brilliant call to bring on Joe Allen.

We were playing with 8 when he was on silly

[chrisp_1927]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

Abysmal. Bale doesn't have 90 minutes in him(debatable if he has 45 tbf). Ramsey unbelievably bad again, the worse he is playing the more he demands the ball to mess up again. This was right up there with his joke performance in the Andorra game in 2016 qualifying. He hasn't just played poorly himself he has stopped the rest of the team being able to play to a large extent.

I know we're not an amazing side, and maybe I was expecting a bit too much. But i do think we had players who could have caused teams problems. Unfortunately they've had to play 2nd fiddle so two blokes who can't/won't run can have a farewell tour.

[poc]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

You can't win games with 9 men. Bale and Ramsey should be ashamed of how poor they have been. As for Roberts what a poof. Didn't fancy it. At least Ramsey fought. I'll give him that.

make this a sticky

[J R Hartley]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

make this a sticky

Get a grip

[J R Hartley]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

Abysmal. Bale doesn't have 90 minutes in him(debatable if he has 45 tbf). Ramsey unbelievably bad again, the worse he is playing the more he demands the ball to mess up again. This was right up there with his joke performance in the Andorra game in 2016 qualifying. He hasn't just played poorly himself he has stopped the rest of the team being able to play to a large extent.

I know we're not an amazing side, and maybe I was expecting a bit too much. But i do think we had players who could have caused teams problems. Unfortunately they've had to play 2nd fiddle so two blokes who can't/won't run can have a farewell tour.

He’s carried the team for years you ungrateful kent

[79blue]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

I love to see the stats for Ramsey's passes completed and possession lost.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

I understand why Ramsey plays, we have so few options, he at least gets on the ball and tries to make things happen although he was appalling. Bale however hardly touched the ball and we have so many other attacking options. Page needs to resign.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

Well. It's not cool being shown up for the average team we are on the world stage. Is it ? Backbone doesn't come into it. Are we there for the ride or are we there to play some football. It might be harsh but we are basically the Rangers-UCL of the World Cup.

......I mean, it was great to qualify but something has gone properly wrong. We have been completely ineffective. Iran or the US did not play mindblowingly good football.

It's the fckin tactics I reckon.....Page doesn't have the experience surely at this level. I dunno.

I was going to say you’ve got to have a working midfield in the modern game, but you need one full stop. The desperation to get Joe Allen “fit” says it all and, after winging it last year in the Euros, Bale and Ramsey’s completely unsatisfactory club situations have caught up with them with a vengeance. You cling to straws and hope for the best, but this has been coming since we scraped past Ukraine last June - the best ever Welsh team really needs a rebuilding job now.

[Divine Wright]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

I'd give the manager job to J R Hartley, it was a brilliant call to bring on Joe Allen.

Just to be clear. I am not being a turncoat and I don't subscribe to some of the more venomous bantz that has and will inevitably come from some quarters. I'm disappointed. But I was disappointed in the euros too. Our performances were not good there either. I think the FAW should have been braver after that tournament and been just a little bit more ambitious with regard to the coaching staff. The signs were there.

The players are not THAT old. 31 and 33 is not ancient. Other players at that age can still play to the highest level. But you have to start questioning Bales decision to go to the mls. Maybe him and Rambo are just too injury prone. That isn't anyones fault.

[Trigger]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

Well. It's not cool being shown up for the average team we are on the world stage. Is it ? Backbone doesn't come into it. Are we there for the ride or are we there to play some football. It might be harsh but we are basically the Rangers-UCL of the World Cup.

......I mean, it was great to qualify but something has gone properly wrong. We have been completely ineffective. Iran or the US were did not play mindblowingly good football.

It's the fckin tactics I reckon.....Page doesn't the experience surely at this level. I dunno.

The group was doable with the right team and set up.

We took a lot of cheerleaders and unfortunately our better players just aren't what they were. Bale can still deliver tbf but needs energy and pace around him, a platform where he can get possession in the right areas.

We gave up so much space in both matches with the 5 at the back. Any lost possession and they were running at us, must be exhausting. Very naive. Very poor from Page again, similar to the Denmark game.

Some people seem to rate him but so far his tournament record is 1 win from 6, soon to be 7 unless we are being very optimistic.

[The Hooded Claw]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

My god, that was a painful watch and a disaster in every way.

They couldn't string two passes together, far too many long balls, wasteful in possession, kept giving the ball to Iran (with Allen at fault for the last goal). It's the worst I've seen us play in a very long time and reminded me of the bad old days.

Special mention to Ramsey, who was absolute pants.

Iran wanted it more and were deserved winners. We couldn't get the basics right and have been punished for it.

Part of the problem, is that we've come across as Plucky Little Wales and we're happy just to be at the World Cup. I think that has affected our psyche.

And the pundits - Williams and Rush were so patronising about the performance. I'd be surprised if any player is worth more than a 4 out of 10, as no one came out of that with any credit.

Gabby Logan looked a bit awkward at the end of it.

At least we can now confirm that it's time for a rebuild.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

He’s carried the team for years you ungrateful kent

But both Bale and Ramsey have been very poor in these two games

[llan bluebird]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

Bale and Ramsey are more powerful than the manager, they run the gaff.

Ramsey has never been the top of a double pivot, even younger and fitter, but he has gone. Bale shouldn't be even on the Park based on performances over the last 18 months

Allen hasn't started a game since September.

A weak management performance as they shouldn't have started. In their prime, Morrell wouldn't be able to tie Rambos laces but that prime was a long time ago.