FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

[Hilts]

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Yes Hilts…a winner

Yeah got that wrong.

England didnt pass the ball to them at every opportunity though.

[Wales-Bales]

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We were playing with 8 when he was on silly

His 2 mistakes led to 2 goals.

[Barmy]

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I think we were garbage in the final third the whole game,
Which means we carried Bale and to a lesser extent Ramsey for what?
Dan James is struggling and Page decides he’ The answer to our problems.
Ampadu worked his socks off. He did miss a few passes but we missed him when he went off.
Unfortunately at the moment it’s hard to see who will make us better,other than a better coach.

[Rjk]

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He’s carried the team for years you ungrateful kent

exactly, I'm sure he didn't want to play badly, just one tournament too far for this side sadly

[Wash DC Blue]

Re: FT: WALES 0 - 2 IRAN. Match thread

At least we got there.
Something we've waited for for our whole lives for a lot of us.

No point in slating the players (Roberts aside) as they didn't stop trying in what were very difficult conditions.
Time, Fitness, Sharpness as caught up with the players that we have relied upon so heavily over the last 10 years.
They should be applauded and shown the gratitude for what they have given us. I for one will be forever grateful to them.

Page for me isn't the man to take us forward IMO.
Time for a new manager to do a Tosh like rebuild.

[Harry Bosch]

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We never looked like scoring, never mind winning.
Though I did think our luck might be in when they hit the post twice.

Agreed, and we didn't really look like scoring against the USA either. For me we simply were not fit enough going into the tournament, either physical or mentally. So many of the squad seemed to be in a race this season to get fit for the WC. Bale and Rambo have been shadows of their former selves and we've carried them in both games. It was great for these Welsh legends to get to a World Cup but difficult to see how much their stars have waned, and Hennessey will be devastated to end his Welsh career with the red card. We've no chance of beating England and it would be good to give some of the other players some match time but I have a feeling we won't see too many changes while a miracle is still possible.

[Monster munch]

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Well it was nice to qualify but both performances have been way off. I don't rate Pagey and Kit Symons as coaches, Bale has got them out of the doodoo far too much in recent years but now it appears that ship is now sailing and into the sunset and i'd prefer if we tried a new coaching set up (if thats possible as they are contracted for 2 years?)

Positives for the old guard players, they got us to the world cup, they had an awesome 2016 and decent enough 2018 tournament but expect most of them to retire now into welsh folklore and we start again for the euro qualification with the younger lads.

We're not out yet...but beating England based on the past 2 performances is almost laughable to even consider. Funny things can happen but that is one thing that just isn't.

Onwards we go but as I said above, Page and his gang just haven't got the minerals for us to create anything special in the long term.

[J R Hartley]

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But both Bale and Ramsey have been very poor in these two games

They certainly have been poor, but not the only two. Only Kieffer Moore and Ben Davies can come out of both games with any credit.

However, to see the vile abuse thrown at two of Wales greatest ever players, who have given us moments we could only dream of in our lifetime less than 10 years ago smacks of the type of support we criticise England and their media for.

If it wasnt for Bale in particular we wouldnt even be in these finals. Hes the main reason we now expect to qualify for finals of tournaments.

Together Stronger? Only when its going well for some it seems. Short memories.

[chrisp_1927]

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He’s carried the team for years you ungrateful kent

Bale has carried us a lot at times, which is why i think he deserves 45/50 minutes a game. He would be effective and a handful in a shorter period, but he can't last the 90

[Wash DC Blue]

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Bale and Ramsey are more powerful than the manager, they run the gaff.

Ramsey has never been the top of a double pivot, even younger and fitter, but he has gone. Bale shouldn't be even on the Park based on performances over the last 18 months

Allen hasn't started a game since September.

A weak management performance as they shouldn't have started. In their prime, Morrell wouldn't be able to tie Rambos laces but that prime was a long time ago.

That's were he played in his best season for Arsenal alongside Arteta scoring 16 goals.

[Wash DC Blue]

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They certainly have been poor, but not the only two. Only Kieffer Moore and Ben Davies can come out of both games with any credit.

However, to see the vile abuse thrown at two of Wales greatest ever players, who have given us moments we could only dream of in our lifetime less than 10 years ago smacks of the type of support we criticise England and their media for.

If it wasnt for Bale in particular we wouldnt even be in these finals. Hes the main reason we now expect to qualify for finals of tournaments.

Together Stronger? Only when its going well for some it seems. Short memories.

100% agree with you.

[Wales-Bales]

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However, to see the vile abuse thrown at two of Wales greatest ever players, who have given us moments we could only dream of in our lifetime less than 10 years ago smacks of the type of support we criticise England and their media for.

Nobody has abused them, the truth is not abuse.

[J R Hartley]

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His 2 mistakes led to 2 goals.

it is what is is. Ampadus mistakes went unpunished thanks to the woodwork or tight offside calls. Thems the breaks.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Trying desperately to find a positive - at least we don't have to support England against USA later...

[J R Hartley]

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I've watched football since 1962. I don't think I can remember a player not actually touching the ball for 90 minutes. I think the Prince if Wales football almost achieved that today.

Youve watched football for 60 years and are still clueless after all this time. You should have taken up a different hobby.