Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Suppose Warnock returns. Suppose we stay up. There's an important question - what happens then? Staying up is important but there has to be a longer term view beyond that.

I think we can say with some surety that Tan isn't going to be spending much, so the likelihood is that we're stuck with most of this season's squad for next season.

Does he get another contract?

Does he leave at the end of the season, when we'd be looking for yet another manager to get something out of the same group of players?

What is the plan? There has to be one. Looking at it solely from the point of view that the plan is to stay up and nothing else matters is simply short sighted.

[NYCBlue]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

We should have got rid of him when he got us promoted. If he comes, he's here for one reason only. If he gets it done, thank you very much and goodbye.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

Yes, this is exactly my issue also. Staying up is obviously the priority, but another short term hire doesn't solve any of the issues around the club. Especially given we can't pay a fee for anybody for the next few windows. We will just be in a worse situation next season again. Maybe Warnock can come back and save us for a third time, wonder how much it will cost to have him on a retainer.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

We should have got rid of him when he got us promoted. If he comes, he's here for one reason only. If he gets it done, thank you very much and goodbye.

Totally agree with this.

If he can come and save us from the drop, brilliant, it gives the club time to plan another appointment and a manager a proper transfer window and a pre-season to mould a team (not that I have much faith in them doing it).

But the priority has to be staying up, us going down would be a disaster and the club need to do anything to give us the best chance of staying up.

[Ninja]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

We should have got rid of him when he got us promoted. If he comes, he's here for one reason only. If he gets it done, thank you very much and goodbye.

I can see him getting more than a few months.
Not much point in him coming for that long.

From what Warnock himself has said lately in the press, he doesn't want to be doing years at this stage.

I reckon he'd be happy to do 18 months though.

The problem with that is the fact that it doesn't really suit us. He'd be coming for the money, would undoubtedly neglect the youth system in place, and would cost us a pretty packet.

I suspect we'd be putting him up in a hotel as he's not going to want to be house hunting etc.

I agree that the rest of the season would be it for me at best, but he may well hold out for 18 months, otherwise it all seems a bit pointless him relocating etc at this point. We'd be talking now until May, it's a lot of hassle for such a short appointment.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

If he comes then it must be a water tight contract until May

His job to keep us in the championship

If he does that he gets a bonus

Then we look for a long term appointment

It's no more complicated than that

[Ninja]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

If he comes then it must be a water tight contract until May

His job to keep us in the championship

If he does that he gets a bonus

Then we look for a long term appointment

It's no more complicated than that

I agree completely.
I just can't see him coming here for what, 4-5 months?
I reckon he'd want another year and therein lies the problem.
If he wants to come here til the end of the season with an incentive based contract then f*ck it, do it.
I just reckon he's got 18 months in his head judging by some of what he's said recently.

He's made it clear he doesn't want "years", but I reckon he'll want more than 4-5 months.

He probably wants one more go at the purse strings in June/July.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

We should have got rid of him when he got us promoted. If he comes, he's here for one reason only. If he gets it done, thank you very much and goodbye.

Possibly but we’d have had to spend an awful lot of money for another manager to have a chance. We were really, really close to doing it but in hindsight he should have gone when we went down. I don’t want to be that guy but if Sala had landed, I think we’d have stayed up and Warnock would have rode off into the sunset a hero

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

I agree completely.
I just can't see him coming here for what, 4-5 months?
I reckon he'd want another year and therein lies the problem.
If he wants to come here til the end of the season with an incentive based contract then f*ck it, do it.
I just reckon he's got 18 months in his head judging by some of what he's said recently.

He's made it clear he doesn't want "years", but I reckon he'll want more than 4-5 months.

He probably wants one more go at the purse strings in June/July.

Neil Warnock loves money. Tan will pay him a lot of it to keep us up. It’s that simple

[Ninja]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

Neil Warnock loves money. Tan will pay him a lot of it to keep us up. It’s that simple

Would you be happy then, to pay him a shit-load of cash for 18 months and sanction his wheeling and dealing in the summer?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

Would you be happy then, to pay him a shit-load of cash for 18 months and sanction his wheeling and dealing in the summer?

I’m just answering your quesition. Warnock would take the job because he loves money. I bet Tan pays him, “Blackie” and “Jeppo” a million quid to keep us up

We can’t spend any money, either.

[blue matt]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

we could always get a new young coach in, give him the summer transfer market and let his buy players to change our style from " old fashioned " to something a little more modern

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

I think people have got to put aside their dislike of warnock for the task in hand

We are running out of games

We don't have money to splash around

We need an experienced manager to stop us from getting relegated

I think Warnock is a little englander Maggie Thatcher tory boy and he's a chance but ....

He's a superb motivator and man manager and gets results

He's a short term option and the club must ensure that once may comes he is away from the first team

But warnock or a similar type of manager is what we need

We simply havnt got the time to mess about and analyse patterns of play and style

[Ninja]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

I think people have got to put aside their dislike of warnock for the task in hand

We are running out of games

We don't have money to splash around

We need an experienced manager to stop us from getting relegated

I think Warnock is a little englander Maggie Thatcher tory boy and he's a chance but ....

He's a superb motivator and man manager and gets results

He's a short term option and the club must ensure that once may comes he is away from the first team

But warnock or a similar type of manager is what we need

We simply havnt got the time to mess about and analyse patterns of play and style

There's a whole plethora of issues with Warnock coming back, but here's another...
How many of our current crop would actually want him back? How many did he upset last time he was here?
I'm thinking more of the younger players of course, but I'm sure quite a few wouldn't want him here.

[insider]

Re: Suppose it is Warnock - hypothetical scenario that needs an answer

Fvck warnock I don't want him anywhere near my club.
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