Anyone else happy with Tan?

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Anyone else happy with Tan?

All the hate stems from a few poor managerial choices (and as such player recruitment), but ones many on here agreed with at the time.

Yeah, that's all it is....

:hehe:

[Enoch Mort]

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Sala transfer. Why did Tan say yes to Warnock when the transfer committee had aleady opposed it. Biggest mistake in the history of CCFC ?

[insider]

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A lot of fans would be jealous of our “crises”

Are you sure you want to roll the dice on another owner? Better the devil you know.

There should be Dalman out banners is my point.

I can't imagine one set of fans would be jealous of our change of colour from blue to red, I went along with it but when questioned by anyone you just had to agree, it was ridiculous and caused so much harm to the club.
The Sala case has been another stick to beat us with and could have been handled so much better.
Add in a total lack of communication with the fans and putting a car salesman and a bean counter in charge of the club yer I guess there's rivers of jealousy up and down the country.

[Moodybluebird]

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From Tan's point of view I believe it's a lack of trust in football people to protect his investment in the club that's the issue. Having had his fingers burnt by some poor expensive purchases by Malky and Warnock, he is probably reluctant to employ a DoF/Advisor, believing incorrectly that he can steer the club in the right direction without any outside 'interference'.

It is surprising though that he hasn't looked at the success of teams like Brighton and Brentford and tried to emulate the planning that has gone into making them the thriving clubs they are today.

[WJ99mobile]

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Sala transfer. Why did Tan say yes to Warnock when the transfer committee had aleady opposed it. Biggest mistake in the history of CCFC ?

So Tan backed the manager but gets criticised for it?

[NYCBlue]

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2 promotions?

Followed by immediate relegations.

[WJ99mobile]

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From Tan's point of view I believe it's a lack of trust in football people to protect his investment in the club that's the issue. Having had his fingers burnt by some poor expensive purchases by Malky and Warnock, he is probably reluctant to employ a DoF/Advisor, believing incorrectly that he can steer the club in the right direction without any outside 'interference'.

It is surprising though that he hasn't looked at the success of teams like Brighton and Brentford and tried to emulate the planning that has gone into making them the thriving clubs they are today.

Hasn't he just built a new complex to try and bring through more academy players?

[Dorcus]

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I'm baffled there seems to be people who still want to support him.

I can't get into this "better the Devil you know" argument. That throws any ambition out of the window and I actually think it's a form of Stockholm syndrome.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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It is surprising though that he hasn't looked at the success of teams like Brighton and Brentford and tried to emulate the planning that has gone into making them the thriving clubs they are today.

I'm not a regular watcher of The Apprentice but the one thing that strikes home whenever a task fails is usually a lack of preparation or research into it. It's usually fatal when candidates on there think they know what they're doing based on gut instinct or misguided belief.

Tan bought us without knowing a single thing about owning a football club. He's got a board that knows nothing about football. Has he, at any stage, looked at how other successful clubs operate? I doubt it.

Managers always seem to rate Dalman highly, but I wonder if that's down to Dalman not having a scooby doo and gives managers some sort of free reign, as much as Tan will allow, anyway?

[blue lewj]

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So Tan backed the manager but gets criticised for it?

I'm not sure why Tan gets criticism for the signing. I can see why he is criticised for how they've dealt with it after.

Warnock was simply asking for a striker he thought might help keep us up. Nobody was to know what was to come.

[Dave Blue]

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The trouble with the anti-Tan argument is that no-one seems to be able to spell out a credible alternative. If there was a viable one that everyone could see and judge for themselves this anti Tan movement might get some traction. Just ifs, buts and maybe's at the moment.

Any promotion to the PL was a mere pipedream before Tan’s funding (Yes we were close when he joined but likely to go to the wall let’s be honest). Any anti Tan sentiment never comes with a solution. Who else is interested in investment ?

[blue lewj]

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Any promotion to the PL was a mere pipedream before Tan’s funding (Yes we were close when he joined but likely to go to the wall let’s be honest). Any anti Tan sentiment never comes with a solution. Who else is interested in investment ?

It does come with a solution. Shape up or actively look to sell the club. People will buy a club with potential at the right price.

If he doesn't have a serious rethink then we may be in a worse place than before he arrived very soon.
The argument that all debts are payable to him isn't rhe case anymore either. If Dalman's firm and the like now want their pound of flesh they can and will.

[jon1959]

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A lot of our problems could be solved if he put decent people in charge to run the club for him, without the need for him to walk away. He's showing no signs of doing that though.

We need a club strategy an identity and something like a Director of Football (on the Board and reporting direct to the owner) who can plan, recruit, oversee the full age and gender range of club teams - especially the work of the Academy - and ensure that there is continuity and progression whenever a manager leaves (is poached by a Premier League club for eye-watering compensation).

There were a couple of times when Tan seemed open to that approach - when Glenn Roeder came in as an advisor and when Slade was given that Head of Football (?) title after he was sacked. Neither lasted long and the Slade one looked like a ‘soften the blow’ non job - although maybe he could have made something of it if he hadn’t left for another go at management?

Is Tan’s mam still around to nudge him in the right direction?

[dml1954]

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2 promotions?

12 consecutive years in the Championship or above under his ownership, mostly competing at the top end. Plus all the charitable work he has done in the area, including setting up the Cardiff City foundation, raising millions of pounds in the process.

[dml1954]

Re: Anyone else happy with Tan?

A cabal of about 20-25 people on this board who hate Tan (and always have) is hardly representative of our fan base either. Most people would have more common sense than that.