Rebuffed - Sala Insurance arguments

[goats]

Re: Oh dear...

I’d like to know how all these big money signings like in transfer deadline day take place, do they hold the player in a room until all paperwork is complete? medical/insurance etc? What if a car/helicopter crashed just after? Was it just ccfc was not used to big money signings so hadn’t been down that rd and naively let him go back to France un insured?

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Oh dear...

They club have already denied it.

i once did the dirty on my GF ..i denied it too.Still makes me a massive tw@t

[blue matt]

Re: Oh dear...

That statement is even more embarrassing!

No insurer in their right mind would automatically cover a player for £20mil without sighting the full medical results and having all relevant paperwork fully signed off!

.

But the Insurance might be just for a players death / serious injury due to a accident

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Oh dear...

That statement is even more embarrassing!

No insurer in their right mind would automatically cover a player for £20mil without sighting the full medical results and having all relevant paperwork fully signed off!

Laughable at best, and laughed out of court for sure.

Absolutely.

"All Cardiff City Football Club staff understood from its broker that all players were insured from the moment they were signed", yet we spent years arguing that we hadn't signed him.

What a cesspit of lies.

[islandblue]

Re: Oh dear...

Absolutely.

"All Cardiff City Football Club staff understood from its broker that all players were insured from the moment they were signed", yet we spent years arguing that we hadn't signed him.

What a cesspit of lies.

In a nutshell

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Rebuffed

I think the point is this. If it was common practice for players to be automatically added to the policy upon signing then the club would have assumed that Sala was covered. If so they will have a good case in law to claim that he was covered the moment he signed.

But the club spent years arguing they never signed him.

[blue lewj]

Re: Oh dear...

Absolutely.

"All Cardiff City Football Club staff understood from its broker that all players were insured from the moment they were signed", yet we spent years arguing that we hadn't signed him.

What a cesspit of lies.

If the club thought that any player that signs from your reserve grade player breaking into the squad to a multi million pound player is automatically insured on signing the contract in a one size fits all sort of agreement then the lack of knowledge is worrying.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Oh dear...

If the club thought that any player that signs from your reserve grade player breaking into the squad to a multi million pound player is automatically insured on signing the contract in a one size fits all sort of agreement then the lack of knowledge is worrying.

Tan is our hero.

[NYCBlue]

Re: Rebuffed - Sala Insurance arguments

What a ****ing shambles. The club really is a joke. How any of these people became successful businessmen is beyond me.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Rebuffed - Sala Insurance arguments

But the club spent years arguing they never signed him.

Well,yes Eric,because if Fifa had agreed that he hadn't signed then the question of insurance would have been irrelevant. Now,however they have been told they have to pay out so whether he was insured or not becomes important.

I don't know know though whether the insurance clubs take out normally means that any player who signs is automatically covered by the insurance or (crucially in this case of course!) if the club had to inform the insurers of the players name before the insurance was valid(which is the brokers defence of course).

I guess no one on here knows this, although I suspect the latter.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Rebuffed

The time for trying to claim the moral high ground regarding Emiliano Sala passed years ago.

I don't think they're taking the moral high ground just putting out their viewpoint to the fans who are very anti Cardiff due to the worm on the badge.

[Ninja]

Re: Rebuffed - Sala Insurance arguments

Well,yes Eric,because if Fifa had agreed that he hadn't signed then the question of insurance would have been irrelevant. Now,however they have been told they have to pay out so whether he was insured or not becomes important.

I don't know know though whether the insurance clubs take out normally means that any player who signs is automatically covered by the insurance or (crucially in this case of course!) if the club had to inform the insurers of the players name before the insurance was valid(which is the brokers defence of course).

I guess no one on here knows this, although I suspect the latter.

Once upon a time I was a manager of a "high value" team at a life insurance company.

I can assure you that no footballer worth a lot of money, is automatically insured.

Higher value life insurance automatically requires an up-to-date full medical examination, and all relevant paperwork signed by the individual being insured as a minimum.

Sala's medical was completed by the 18th as reported by Wales Online. Possibly completed earlier.
It is not the job of the insurance company to chase the paperwork.

On completion of that medical, given the value of the player, that full medical paperwork should have been signed off by the club doctor, immediately scanned onto a computer, and immediately sent across to the insurer.

At this point, the club should have been contacting the insurer directly to request the application be processed as quickly as possible given the situation.

The insurance company literally could have had a policy in place within the hour if necessary given the high value nature of the case. A medical underwriter would have assessed the medical paperwork immediately upon request, and a decision would have been made at that point.

I daresay that, quite clearly, none of this happened.

Also, for the record, a flight to France in a plane being flown by an unqualified pilot... Would have likely voided the insurance anyway!!

It's all an absolute farce.
Tan has f*cked up royally and should have accepted that and paid up when asked.
Instead, ego and arrogance have cost him probably millions in legal fees, arguing a case he can never win.
As a result, we face a partial embargo and there's no funds for players even if we could sign them.

Oh, and by the way, all Mehmet's "the money's been set aside for the Sala case", was clearly untrue also, as he virtually admitted recently!

[UNDERHILL1927]

Re: Rebuffed - Sala Insurance arguments

I don't think they're taking the moral high ground just putting out their viewpoint to the fans who are very anti Cardiff due to the worm on the badge.

Anti Tan not anti Cardiff. If I were anti Cardiff I wouldn’t watch the shite being offered up every week.

[Dorcus]

Re: Rebuffed - Sala Insurance arguments

Anti Tan not anti Cardiff. If I were anti Cardiff I wouldn’t watch the shite being offered up every week.

Exactly!

Who on Earth on here is anti Cardiff? It's because we love the club so much we show our concern. Anti Tan but Anti Cardiff - never!

[blue lewj]

Re: Rebuffed - Sala Insurance arguments

Anti Tan not anti Cardiff. If I were anti Cardiff I wouldn’t watch the shite being offered up every week.

If somebody is running the club that you love so badly that it is potentially harming the future of the club and you oppose this happening then surely that is pro Cardiff?

I don't get the thinking that whoever comes on board good bad or ugly should be supported regardless of what crap they do in the name of running the club.
Support the boys for 90 minutes but people can show concern for the welfare of the club.
In my opinion actively supporting a regime that is harming the Cardiff City brand and potentially harming the future of this club is anti Cardiff if anything.
What these people are doing to the club and the way they are running it is anti Cardiff.