No confusion, you classed every pensioner the same making out they could afford doing without the heating allowance. This shirker policy seems to have hit a nerve with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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No confusion, you classed every pensioner the same making out they could afford doing without the heating allowance. This shirker policy seems to have hit a nerve with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I am afraid there isQuote:
Originally Posted by Alfresco
My views are that apart from his recent good work on Ukraine and jailing all those racist rioters starmer his leadership , his government and his policies has been dreadful
In fact there's a few threads about that including my views if you want to check
Take a look
You are confusing me with someone else
Don't know why the government don't means test every person claiming benefits.
I certainly agree with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Alfresco
The general argument against it is that it costs a lot to administer means testing. Also, the whole system becomes flakier if it relies on people putting money in but then not being able to benefit from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Some means testing is right, but some should also be universal. Otherwise, why not ask to see people's bank accounts before they go on the operating table?
The wealthy should pay more in tax, but they have a right to benefit from that collective funding in some cases too.
If benefits should be means tested then so should everything elseQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
The government shouldn't be throwing out winter fuel payments to some couple living on a country manor with a servant whilst some are freezing with no money for the meter
It should have been tackled years ago and Labour handled it appallingly and deserve the abuse they got
A huge financial ongoing threat is the triple lock pension which is the grim reaper and the biggest drain by far
Unless that's dealt with it's going to crucify this country far quicker than the spiralling benefits Bill
But
Unless I'm mistaken then you are essentially arguing for the end of universal healthcare and the NHS as we know it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You don't pay into a state pension. That's not how it works. It is a benefit, that's how it's always been. It's not the "socialists" who have used benefits as a slander for the last God knows how many years, and it isn't socialists who've brought the country to its knees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Surely we pay into it, through taxation and national insurance etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
That's how it is supposed to work. You pay in when you can. You get the benefit when you need it. The issues arise when there is a perception people get something for nothing esp when others are struggling etc.
Either way I don't see how the state pension isn't a benefit that we all pay into?
Absolutely true, it's a state sponsored Ponzi scheme affording the illusion of it being an investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
You are indeed completely and utterly mistaken but it's going to happen at some pointQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
It absolutely has to happen, logistically and financially it's the only measure that will preserve the main aims of the NHS. The World has moved on since 1948.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
People just won't pay for it. The whole service as we know it would collapse in that scenarioQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
I'm not so sure about that. People will have to pay their taxes come what may. Some people will just have to suck it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Sludge rattled that he’s going to lose his PIP me thinks
Mate they wont pay their taxes to the have to pay for healthcare only for others to get it for free on their behalf, esp if those people haven't been in the country long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Policies like that would be a recipe for a very radical party to come in, or civil discord or both
You do realise that there were World wars and people saw horrendous things, got to the end of the WAR, and cracked on and rebuilt the Country???Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Some people are mentally strong and some are not otherwise the NHS couldn't cope because everyone would be in there at once saying they are stressed or anxious asking for help.
More people are suffering from taking too much dope than being in the army in Iraq.
:hehe: How can you play with your mind? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
The system is open to abuse in its current form.
I agree as is the tax system and free bus passes and disabled parking badgesQuote:
Originally Posted by Alfresco
You are a fecking idiot
Many of those who saw horrors in the war came home and ended up dead from suicide or alcohol a few years later from the nightmares and flashbacks
You really are a clown
You could get to 65 , be a big tough guy like you and you are in a serious car crash or your missus drops dead in your arms or your daughter or son snuff it
It's got feck all to do with wether you have a strong mind you ill educated arse wipe
Now feck off and good luck if you lose a leg to cancer , I am sure your mental strength will get you through
My bank account is bulgingQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Just like my pants whenever I look at you
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Fecking assholeQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
hhhmmm I'm an uneducated ******** that can spell whether :hehe::hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Me thinks he's sh!tting his pants he may have to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley