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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
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Haha. Don’t be a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
See, times are no where near that bad….Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Mort
Everyone does mate, don't think anyone is happy with the style of football that we play and it's even worse when we lose. All about opinions thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
I think plenty on here are absolutely fine with it tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
I don't care about it as long as it's effective and we win. The last two games have clearly highlighted our shortcomings and the fact that we're not even good at playing the hoofball, which is worrying.Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Which is why I don't get the "it's OK of we win" argument. We don't always win, and won't always win however we play so why not at least get some entertainment while we watch. Makes much more sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
It was just a blip on an otherwise decent season. We narrowly missed out on the playoffs (the real low point) but would go up as champions the following season.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Four defeats in five, the season is over only a few weeks in!! Bring back Bellamy.
I knew I should have bought the monthly pass on CCTV instead of the season long one! Another wasted season.
The monthly one automatically renews. Sneaky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
Steady on. The guys got depression, if he had to work with our current squad of “footballers” it could tip him over the edge.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan_corneli
new years day 5-0Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Sat through 90 plus minutes of that yesterday and delighted was not one of the words I'd use to describe how I felt at full time.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I come across negative because the situation is negative. Pretending it is alright and everything is going to work out fine with this lot running the show is a more Jack act than actually seeing it for what it is and wanting change believe me.
Until Tan gives the chuckle brothers the boot and gets somebody in that knows what they're doing then I can't see that changing any time soon.
People can call me a Jack on here all they like. I don't come on for validation or to be praised for my posts.
They are my opinion and nothing more. For what it is worth I think that I'm closer to the mark than many on here are. Pretending it is all ok when it quite clearly isn't achieves nothing. Some would have been on the Titanic as it went down and celebrated the chance to have a swim.
It was New Year's Day, City lost 5-0 and the opposition was Maidstone United.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
2/5, must try harder.
:hehe:
What year was it? Got to be 25/30 years ago so give me a break shirely?:hehe: besides I can’t recall ever seeing us win on nyd, it’s not the best morning to get up and go to football is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
So if we stay up comfortably it will be time to admit your wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
He won’t be wrong, because it’s not just about the result. The style of play is not conducive to an enjoyable watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
It was New Year's day 1992. I was in the grandstand. Our new signing who looked more like a farmer than a footballer got sent off before half time. The thing that stands out in my memory is that families could bring their children for free and after the 4th or 5th goal there was a mass exodus of parents and kids from the enclosure. They just stepped over the wall and walked down the touch line towards the corner of the grandstand and the Canton stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
January 1st, 1992.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
I went to plenty of away games on New Year's Day down the years. Indeed, the year before the Maidstone game I went all the way up to Darlington to see City get stuffed 4-1.
The reverse of that Maidstone game would be January 1st, 2000, when City battered Exeter 6-1 at Ninian Park. That was Hammam's first season at the club, when Earnie scored shedloads of goals, but oddly he didn't score in that one.
No he will be wrong. Hes making references to the Titanic.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw
If thats his reference hes looking at us heading into L1.
Mid table safety bringing through young players will be a relatively successful season.
I'm sure I saw us lose 5-1 at home to Preston on boxing day, one of the Jorn Schwinkendorf gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Close. That was January 3rd, 2000. It was 0-4, Kurt Nogan scored one of their goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra
I was wrong in the previous post - the 6-1 win over Exeter was 01/01/2001, not 01/01/2000.
It tells a story when a fan of a team that was in the Premier League in 2018/19 sees staying in the league below playing $hite football as success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
No, survival in this league will not be success in my opinion. Especially not while playing arguably the worst brand of football in this league. The fact you have even considered survival as some degree of success shows how far we have regressed.
We are not winning with direct football at the moment, we are not entertaining. Our squad is getting weaker, we are making very odd decisions and loaning out anybody with flair. We are playing kids out of necessity and some simply aren't up to it.
Is it a direct demand from those above managerial level to play kids? It wouldn't surprise me and would be another sign that the people running our club simply don't get football. You can't just make a decision to play kids and start playing them and hope they get up to that level. If it was that easy every club would be doing it. You get an academy in place that produces players that kick the door down because they are such bright prospects that it makes it impossible not to pick them. We're a world away from that now.
Mick would have a job on here if he had funds to buy the players he wants. Doing it on a shoestring is not going to happen. He is very direct and if he let's the players whose contracts run out at the end of the season go then I can only see him bringing in players that fit that system sadly.
If they want to see less people through the turnstiles and turn the casual fans away from the club then they are going the right way about it.
Your backtracking. Those not agreeing with youve accused of going for a swim when the Titanic sinks. So are we getting relegated or not.?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Id say if we finish mid table with Bagan Colwill Bowen Harris maybe even Kieran Evans and Isaak Davies then its fair to say most will have proved they are up to this level. I dont think it will be because the likes of Flint Vaulks and co have carried them.
We are skint. No parachute payments .Its survival mode at the moment.
I agree the football is dire. I didnt want Mick McCarthy but thats where we are. Im pretty certain he can keep us out of a relegation fight. Im happy to play to our strengths but the aimless hoofing it and head tennis needs to be cut out.
I was at that Preston game too…no goals Nogan the nob of llanederyn managed to score evenQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Is that win over Exeter the only ever win on nyd? Typically I was 1000’s of miles away in Sumatra that NYDQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I went back as far as 1990:Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
01/01/1994 - Cardiff 3 Reading 0
01/01/2001 - Cardiff 6 Exeter 1
01/01/2005 - Derby 0 Cardiff 1
01/01/2008 - Cardiff 1 Plymouth 0
01/01/2013 - Birmingham 0 Cardiff Redbirds 1
There were lots of years when City didn't play on New Year's Day. Some thumping defeats on that date too though.
Nobody is backtracking. If anything it is the board and Mick sympathisers that are backtracking. Avoiding relegation being a success? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
As for no parachute payments, virtually the same as the rest of the league then. If we're being honest we've wasted a lot of the money we made from the PL seasons and the parachute payments. All under the watchful eyes of our transfer committee.
I don't think we're going to get relegated though.
Is it a possibility? It wouldn't surprise me if we were dragged into trouble if we don't improve and quickly.
You are happy to play to our strengths but want to stop the hoofing and head tennis? Some might argue that is our style and lumping or throwing the ball in the general direction of our giants is our one and only plan.
I have looked at virtually every game this season and it has been a simple case of can the other team cope with our direct style? If they can then the other team usually get the better of us or take something from the game. Sadly for us more and more teams are working us out too. Not hard when we play one way and never move from that.
Ok so we arent sinking like the titanic.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Now who are the young players who are " simply not up to it"
Harris and Colwill both deemed good enough to have been made full internationals?
Bagan who had the choice of Ireland or Scotland.?
Bowen or Evans. ? No idea if they are good enough myself but I havent seen enough to form any sort of opinion.
I'm not sure how being internationals makes anyone good enough or having the choice of countries..
No but the coaches there clearly rate them. I also think those 3 will have decent careers at Championship level at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
I may be wrong but weve wanted young players given an opportunity for years. Weve been in financial shit for the way weve dished out large amounts and big contracts for players.
Now things are tough and we have youngsters who have even managed to impress international coaches being deemed as simply not good enough.
I think they all have a decent chance, I just didn't see how them being internationals mattered that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Well to be fair I wouldnt want Joe Morrell or that centre back Lawrence so its a fair point.Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Nobody said we're sinking like the Titanic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I said some people on here would be sat on it as it sank and welcome the opportunity of a swim.
It was an observation of their ability to drag any little positive from every crap decision that City make as a club.
I've never once said City will be relegated. You've got your wires crossed here.
Fair enough. So who are the simply not up to it young players?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I think a few of them aren't great and wouldn't be playing if we had more money. Again my opinion and some might think they'd be coming through regardless. Opinions differ, it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I like the look of Colwill but he has plenty to work on and have liked a bit of what I have seen of Bowen. I'm not sure Bowen should be seeing game time over the likes of Wintle but I think he has something. The jury is still out on a few of the others and despite it being popular belief on here games do not suddenly bring them up to standard. For some of those players it simply exposes them as not being up to this level.
They might well prove me wrong and all come good. It is never a good idea to throw kids in because you have to though. Kids should come in because they are ready, not because we are threadbare in terms of depth in that position.
Good luck to them though and I hope they come good for everybody's benefit.
Do I think we have been producing top level kids all along and despite being good enough for the first team we've overlooked them time and again? Not really.
Do I think we've overhauled our academy so much in the past season or two that we're suddenly producing kids good enough for the first team after many years of producing absolutely zilch? No.
So, maybe I'll be the first to say it... I like what you post!Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I find myself in agreement with a lot of what you say.
Don't let the detractors stop you from posting what you feel (and I feel, for that matter!).
My aunty use to work with his mum in JR Freeman's cigar factory.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
I was on the Grange End for that game in the time when it didn't have a roof and it absolutely p*ssed it down. One of the many occasions over the years I've questioned my sanity (yesterday included)