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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Perhaps it's just me but does anyone else get a bit underwhelmed when I find out we've missed out on signing someone who has ended up going to a team quite a bit below us in the pecking order last season?
It would be good to hear we've missed out on someone who ended up going to a side aiming for promotion, to be targeting players that are also targets for likely top sides in the division. Absolutely no disrespect to Jordon Williams, and hope he has a great career (except when he plays us, he can have a shocker then lol), but aiming for League 1 players that end up going to a side from the same division last season doesn't inspire me greatly. If that is the sort of target we are aiming for we'll get more transfers wrong than right and we're not heading up the table.
Did we really 'miss out' on signing Jordan Williams?
I can believe that the club looked at him as a possible full back option - probably along with dozens of others - and maybe even spoke to someone - but did they ever make a formal approach?
Surely most of these 'linked with' stories are agent inventions?
They are usually given space by Wales Online (after appearing somewhere else first) and then are rubbished a few days later when the club deny ever being interested. Two stories and no substance.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
We had been linked with Sevilla reserves striker Musa Drammeh but it looks like he's off to Hearts.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Perhaps it's just me but does anyone else get a bit underwhelmed when I find out we've missed out on signing someone who has ended up going to a team quite a bit below us in the pecking order last season?
It would be good to hear we've missed out on someone who ended up going to a side aiming for promotion, to be targeting players that are also targets for likely top sides in the division. Absolutely no disrespect to Jordon Williams, and hope he has a great career (except when he plays us, he can have a shocker then lol), but aiming for League 1 players that end up going to a side from the same division last season doesn't inspire me greatly. If that is the sort of target we are aiming for we'll get more transfers wrong than right and we're not heading up the table.
Why on Earth would you be underwhelmed by us missing out on a League 1 player ? There could be a myriad of reasons why one player would choose to join one club not another and not all of them are be football-related.
In this instance you probably feel miffed because you consider Cardiff to be superior to Pompey and yet the player has chosen to join them instead of us. Anyhow, it's more likely that we were never interested in him in the first place. Just pure speculation by WOL.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
Undercoverinwurzelland
We had been linked with Sevilla reserves striker Musa Drammeh but it looks like he's off to Hearts.
We are competing with teams in Scotland and league 1/newly promoted :hehe:
Its ok tho cos theres a member of backroom staff coming in thats going to rip up the way Bulut plays and get us going.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
Why on Earth would you be underwhelmed by us missing out on a League 1 player ? There could be a myriad of reasons why one player would choose to join one club not another and not all of them are be football-related.
In this instance you probably feel miffed because you consider Cardiff to be superior to Pompey and yet the player has chosen to join them instead of us. Anyhow, it's more likely that we were never interested in him in the first place. Just pure speculation by WOL.
Because if we were in for him, we've lost out to a team below us in the football league.
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
Because if we were in for him, we've lost out to a team below us in the football league.
So it's a pride thing then. Nothing to do with how good the player is or his reasons for joining Portsmouth. Also, as they were promoted last season they are no longer below us in the league.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
So it's a pride thing then. Nothing to do with how good the player is or his reasons for joining Portsmouth. Also, as they were promoted last season they are no longer below us in the league.
You'd have to ask Eric, I was just answering your question based on posts i've read in this thread
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Perhaps it's just me but does anyone else get a bit underwhelmed when I find out we've missed out on signing someone who has ended up going to a team quite a bit below us in the pecking order last season?
It would be good to hear we've missed out on someone who ended up going to a side aiming for promotion, to be targeting players that are also targets for likely top sides in the division. Absolutely no disrespect to Jordon Williams, and hope he has a great career (except when he plays us, he can have a shocker then lol), but aiming for League 1 players that end up going to a side from the same division last season doesn't inspire me greatly. If that is the sort of target we are aiming for we'll get more transfers wrong than right and we're not heading up the table.
It is just you.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
He is a strange one, he needs to slow down when he talking
When he talking :hehe:
Has the ever perfect TIT made a grammatical error?
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
I'm not panicking.
But at what point does the "Tan backs Bulut" narrative become another PR bullshit lie?
If we want to get real philosophical (since there's absolutely **** all else to talk about) is a lie a lie when it's first muttered or when the event in question does/does not happen?
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The nights have started getting shorter and I'd say that this thread is still awaiting its first player transfer rumour that has some real substance to it. Maybe that's because it seems our manager and his staff only returned to work yesterday - at other clubs, you'd ignore that because you'd assume all sorts of preparatory work for the new season had been going on almost as soon as the old one finished, but this is Cardiff City we're talking about.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
The nights have started getting shorter and I'd say that this thread is still awaiting its first player transfer rumour that has some real substance to it. Maybe that's because it seems our manager and his staff only returned to work yesterday - at other clubs, you'd ignore that because you'd assume all sorts of preparatory work for the new season had been going on almost as soon as the old one finished, but this is Cardiff City we're talking about.
They were a shambles with the Manager contract renewal, so you can be sure we will be a good few weeks behind our competitors.
I expect Bulut will be looking overseas again with another few from Greece or Turkey, so maybe he had players in mind.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
Liverpool allegedly wanting £8m for Nat Phillips.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
They were a shambles with the Manager contract renewal, so you can be sure we will be a good few weeks behind our competitors.
I expect Bulut will be looking overseas again with another few from Greece or Turkey, so maybe he had players in mind.
You are right, it was a shambles which, as Dalman is so invested in the Bulut project, I guess is down to Vincent Tan. I would hope that transfer budgets are now agreed and that the manager and transfer committee (if it still exists) can get on with recruitment without interference from afar. That may be too much to hope for however.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
No doubt there will be lots of speculation in the coming days maybe keep this thread open for any news and targets that fellow posters see and hear about ?
I'll start looks like we missed out on Jordan Williams
Portsmouth have won the race to sign Barnsley defender Jordan Williams on a free transfer ahead of West Brom and Cardiff
This will be the recurring theme. We will continually miss out on targets
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Originally Posted by
Undercoverinwurzelland
Liverpool allegedly wanting £8m for Nat Phillips.
I’d pay half, max, and I’m not even sure I’d feel good about it.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
The nights have started getting shorter and I'd say that this thread is still awaiting its first player transfer rumour that has some real substance to it. Maybe that's because it seems our manager and his staff only returned to work yesterday - at other clubs, you'd ignore that because you'd assume all sorts of preparatory work for the new season had been going on almost as soon as the old one finished, but this is Cardiff City we're talking about.
I’m sure he’s got plenty of targets lined up. I wonder if we will see any outgoings that bring in a decent transfer fee?
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
sort of cardiff city related can't see it myself
Barcelona are interested in signing Jaden Philogene (22) from Hull City! Contacts have already begun.
It could be a loan with option to buy
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
The nights have started getting shorter and I'd say that this thread is still awaiting its first player transfer rumour that has some real substance to it. Maybe that's because it seems our manager and his staff only returned to work yesterday - at other clubs, you'd ignore that because you'd assume all sorts of preparatory work for the new season had been going on almost as soon as the old one finished, but this is Cardiff City we're talking about.
Bob, you might want to re-think the first statement in this post :hehe:
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
probably a load of b'llux this rumour but we are in for Michael Olise
:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
Only just spotted this, but fair play - that's funny.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
he's not going to cost us 8 million quid
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Originally Posted by
Carl Dale's Mole
I’d pay half, max, and I’m not even sure I’d feel good about it.
I wouldn’t bother with him, Phillips had quite a few good games, but we defended better when it was McGuinness alongside Goutas
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I wouldn’t bother with him, Phillips had quite a few good games, but we defended better when it was McGuinness alongside Goutas
It is not only the transfer fee, but Phillips was also widely reported to be on £65k pw with 2 years left on his contract. He will want to 'protect' that salary with any move away from Liverpool (either signing on fee, pure salary, or getting Liverpool to pay up part of it to get him off the books). I can't see Cardiff being in the conversation with those sort of numbers flying around.
If we are going back to a former loan success (more of a success than Phillips) I would prefer Kipre. He is out of contract at WBA but has rejected their best offer and now seems to be on his way to France, Turkey or Suffolk! No transfer fee to get around, but even if Cardiff was the most attractive option in front of him (!) we cannot compete on salary.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
It is not only the transfer fee, but Phillips was also widely reported to be on £65k pw with 2 years left on his contract. He will want to 'protect' that salary with any move away from Liverpool (either signing on fee, pure salary, or getting Liverpool to pay up part of it to get him off the books). I can't see Cardiff being in the conversation with those sort of numbers flying around.
If we are going back to a former loan success (more of a success than Phillips) I would prefer Kipre. He is out of contract at WBA but has rejected their best offer and now seems to be on his way to France, Turkey or Suffolk! No transfer fee to get around, but even if Cardiff was the most attractive option in front of him (!) we cannot compete on salary.
Agree about Kipre on both counts, it’s a shame his contract didn’t run out this time last year because I think we would have had a chance of getting him then - as it is, I’ve seen him selected in a couple of Championship select teams for last season. You could argue about whether he was good enough to justify that, but I’d say it’s generally accepted that he was one of the better Championship centre backs in 23/24 and, as such, he’s now probably out of our reach.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
Carl Dale's Mole
I'm not panicking.
But at what point does the "Tan backs Bulut" narrative become another PR bullshit lie?
If we want to get real philosophical (since there's absolutely **** all else to talk about) is a lie a lie when it's first muttered or when the event in question does/does not happen?
Thinking Tan/things at the club will change is like thinking an abusive partner will suddenly wake up and change their ways.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
Well he's not it he, as we won't be buying him.
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Josh Murphy's been released by Oxford.
Reaction from their fans seems to be that he was good for a bit but didn't do enough. Who'd have thought...
Looks like he's off to Portsmouth.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
I’m sure he’s got plenty of targets lined up. I wonder if we will see any outgoings that bring in a decent transfer fee?
Well, the club had let it be known that Ng would be sold if the “right” offer was made for him and, with no interest in him so far it would seem, we’re now seeing stories about Premier League interest in Colwill - I’ve always thought that we’d have to sell to be able to bring in the sort of players we want, I’m not having a go there, it’s just the way things have been at Cardiff for most of the last 125 years.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Well, the club had let it be known that Ng would be sold if the “right” offer was made for him and, with no interest in him so far it would seem, we’re now seeing stories about Premier League interest in Colwill - I’ve always thought that we’d have to sell to be able to bring in the sort of players we want, I’m not having a go there, it’s just the way things have been at Cardiff for most of the last 125 years.
I don't think Colwill would cut it in the Premier League even with better players around him. He plays as if he has more time to control a ball or pass it than is often the case - and gets dispossessed as a result.
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Well, the club had let it be known that Ng would be sold if the “right” offer was made for him and, with no interest in him so far it would seem, we’re now seeing stories about Premier League interest in Colwill - I’ve always thought that we’d have to sell to be able to bring in the sort of players we want, I’m not having a go there, it’s just the way things have been at Cardiff for most of the last 125 years.
I can't understand the delusion about the value and saleability of Ng. Don't get me wrong, he's a good player and I'm glad he plays for us. But he's 28 yrs old and an above average Championship right back. Right backs generate the lowest transfer fees of any position. We'd be lucky to get over £1 for him and that would be from the likes of Hull or similar.
The only players who have any transfer value greater than that are Colwill and maybe McGuinness. This is a direct result of not developing younger players and signing has beens (this goes back to before Bulut). It results in your squad has no capital/resale value. Recent signings would probably have a negative value (reverse premium).
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Originally Posted by
AdrianAlston
I can't understand the delusion about the value and saleability of Ng. Don't get me wrong, he's a good player and I'm glad he plays for us. But he's 28 yrs old and an above average Championship right back. Right backs generate the lowest transfer fees of any position. We'd be lucky to get over £1 for him and that would be from the likes of Hull or similar.
The only players who have any transfer value greater than that are Colwill and maybe McGuinness. This is a direct result of not developing younger players and signing has beens (this goes back to before Bulut). It results in your squad has no capital/resale value. Recent signings would probably have a negative value (reverse premium).
We’d definitely get over a nicker:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
We’d definitely get over a nicker:hehe:
Oops!
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Originally Posted by
AdrianAlston
Oops!
Everyone bar him and Tony understood you :hehe:
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Ryan Giles to Hull now a permanent move.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c51yp3y33n2o
(Hull have sold Tufan to Trabzonspor for an undisclosed fee).
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
2 names being banded about this morning
Serdar Dursun
Umut Nayir
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Re: As the Transfer Window Opens Today
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
2 names being banded about this morning
Serdar Dursun
Umut Nayir
Neither that inspiring really
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
Neither that inspiring really
It wouldn't start any "Top 6" talk but a quick wiki / YouTube search and I'd take that Dursun over what we have.
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
Neither that inspiring really
The first one has a good goal scoring record, but he’ll be 33 in October - think I’d prefer the second one who is 31 today as it turns out, but, in truth, I might be talking bollox as I’ve never heard of either of them until today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdar_Dursun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umut_Nayir