Why does Islam fit in so comfortably with modern left wing views?

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

It is not causing me any lack of sleep thank you(strange comment?)

I was not expecting you to trawl through the net but you seemed to have knowledge of a survey or survey' which backed up your opinion.

Obviously not,though I am not saying that such survey's do not exist although the ones I have seen are not so cut and dried as you suggest.

Your last comment is a bit too dismissive of Centralists who are often proved right

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Why was it strange? You seem to have your knickers in a twist!

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Why was it strange? You seem to have your knickers in a twist!

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Any comment on the rest of my post?

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

Any comment on the rest of my post?

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Not much more than you might find it interesting to carry out some research on these surveys and analyses yourself; they really are very revealing and interesting. But beyond that it's no big deal, anyone can believe what they want so I wouldn't fret about it.

With regard to "Centralists" as you put it I don't really understand who or what they are, if such people do indeed exist. Are they maybe Right Wing on some issues and Left Wing on others? Do they have no sense of justice or proportion? Are they merely a tad altruistic but quite often self-centered? Are they usually conformists but occasionally feel rebellious against the Establishment?

I could go on and on but I confess I'm at a loss to
make an opinion on it. Nevertheless it's a fascinating subject.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Not much more than you might find it interesting to carry out some research on these surveys and analyses yourself; they really are very revealing and interesting. But beyond that it's no big deal, anyone can believe what they want so I wouldn't fret about it.

With regard to "Centralists" as you put it I don't really understand who or what they are, if such people do indeed exist. Are they maybe Right Wing on some issues and Left Wing on others? Do they have no sense of justice or proportion? Are they merely a tad altruistic but quite often self-centered? Are they usually conformists but occasionally feel rebellious against the Establishment?

I could go on and on but I confess I'm at a loss to
make an opinion on it. Nevertheless it's a fascinating subject.

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Centerists?

Basically Tories but in public put up with so much grief 😆 that they pretend they are middle of the road

But that's nonsense

Generally middle ground types vote liberal or hold their nose and vote Labour

Tories never tend to stop voting Tory and the people who say they vote for whatever party is best for the country are very rare or lying

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Centerists?

Basically Tories but in public put up with so much grief 😆 that they pretend they are middle of the road

But that's nonsense

Generally middle ground types vote liberal or hold their nose and vote Labour

Tories never tend to stop voting Tory and the people who say they vote for whatever party is best for the country are very rare or lying

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Do you really believe some of the garbage you spout at times Sludge?

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Not much more than you might find it interesting to carry out some research on these surveys and analyses yourself; they really are very revealing and interesting. But beyond that it's no big deal, anyone can believe what they want so I wouldn't fret about it.

With regard to "Centralists" as you put it I don't really understand who or what they are, if such people do indeed exist. Are they maybe Right Wing on some issues and Left Wing on others? Do they have no sense of justice or proportion? Are they merely a tad altruistic but quite often self-centered? Are they usually conformists but occasionally feel rebellious against the Establishment?

I could go on and on but I confess I'm at a loss to
make an opinion on it. Nevertheless it's a fascinating subject.

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

Do you really believe some of the garbage you spout at times Sludge?

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I truly believe that people who say they are middle of the road and say they sometimes vote Tory are fibbing and are overwhelmingly tory voters

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I truly believe that people who say they are middle of the road and say they sometimes vote Tory are fibbing and are overwhelmingly tory voters

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It's somewhat of a fair point because don't we have a ready made party just for "Centrists "called the Lib Dems? In which case one would probably refer to oneself as a Lib Dem rather than a "Centrist" surely?

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

It's somewhat of a fair point because don't we have a ready made party just for "Centrists "called the Lib Dems? In which case one would probably refer to oneself as a Lib Dem rather than a "Centrist" surely?

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Absolutely

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I truly believe that people who say they are middle of the road and say they sometimes vote Tory are fibbing and are overwhelmingly tory voters

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I can well believe that much as a gay guy wouldn't come out to a friend who constantly hates on gay people, that someone who votes Tory probably wouldn't say it to you, Sludge.

It’s like a vegan not wanting to tell their buddy who’s always trash-talking plant-based diets that they’ve gone vegan. They won't risk anything