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City123
Apparently signing Roko Simic from RB Salzburg and loaning him to Kortrijk
that seems like good business - planning for the future
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Rjk
that seems like good business - planning for the future
No disrespect to you, but the football cliche 'good business' is just plain daft.
Let's be honest a signing only becomes good business if the player is either a success or sold at a profit.
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The Lone Gunman
No disrespect to you, but the football cliche 'good business' is just plain daft.
Let's be honest a signing only becomes good business if the player is either a success or sold at a profit.
not every move like this will be successful, but that doesn't mean they aren't good business at the outset.
we could continue signing 29-30 year olds and never have any chance or recouping the transfer fees. at least by buying some players with the potential to increase in value a lot we have some possibility of it paying off. Even if 1 in 10 signings like this make it big it's probably still worthwhile given the elevated fees premier league teams pay. and the fact we can offer him a season in Belgium to progress without having to struggle for game time here is also pretty sensible
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Is the loan to Kortrijk a way of avoiding what I still call FFP penalties I wonder?
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the other bob wilson
Thanks Bob. Looks strong with good feet for a big lad. Quite excited about this type of signing we've started making, younger with potential rather than players coming to the end of their careers.
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Rjk
not every move like this will be successful, but that doesn't mean they aren't good business at the outset.
We'll have to agree to disagree then, because the success or otherwise of a signing is obviously unknown at the time of a transfer and any unsuccessful signing who ends up costing the club money in the long run is not good business as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not talking about this signing in particular, of course - I'd never heard of the player until today. I just think 'good business' is a stupid phrase that is used way too liberally in football circles.
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Let’s not forget that Tsunoda was one of these too… bad luck with the injury but we’ve signed 3 defenders on long term deals since, chances he ever plays a role here?
FFP might be a reason but if not I’m not sure why he’s being farmed out, surely not an inferior option to Etete or Reindorf given their relative experience and scoring records at this point in their career? In a squad absolutely desperate for a striker?
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The Lone Gunman
No disrespect to you, but the football cliche 'good business' is just plain daft.
Let's be honest a signing only becomes good business if the player is either a success or sold at a profit.
Rjk wrote that it 'seems' like good business, which at first sight it does as the club have a development plan for the player. It potentially could become very or excellent business if the player turns out to be a success, although I accept that is not guaranteed
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the other bob wilson
12 clubs in 12 years is going some!
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Des Parrot
12 clubs in 12 years is going some!
:flare:
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Des Parrot
12 clubs in 12 years is going some!
More clubs than......:golf:
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the other bob wilson
Is the loan to Kortrijk a way of avoiding what I still call FFP penalties I wonder?
I think so, it's becoming popular for some owners to have other clubs in other leagues.
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Des Parrot
12 clubs in 12 years is going some!
Well, at least we won't need to worry about a testimonial.
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the other bob wilson
Is the loan to Kortrijk a way of avoiding what I still call FFP penalties I wonder?
Well the purchase price can be amortised across the length of the contract, but any loan fee will be realised in full, so potentially yes.
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“Game charger” I’ve got a feeling that Erol’s view will be different to ours! Proven 25 goals a season striker is a game changer!
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Sometimes it can be a Work Permit thing, but in this case I have no idea.
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LA Bluebird
Let’s not forget that Tsunoda was one of these too… bad luck with the injury but we’ve signed 3 defenders on long term deals since, chances he ever plays a role here?
FFP might be a reason but if not I’m not sure why he’s being farmed out, surely not an inferior option to Etete or Reindorf given their relative experience and scoring records at this point in their career? In a squad absolutely desperate for a striker?
They want another senior striker, so that means they’ll have Kanga, Robinson and potentially the new one. Simic isn’t going to play, and him getting splinters in his arse is no good for anyone.
Re Tsunoda, nobody knows what he’s like or all about but Goutas will probably leave on a free this summer so he might be our 4th choice. If Fish or Daland look good, we’ll cash in as well.
I’d rather we signed young players with potential instead of the over the hill journeymen we’ve almost exclusively signed for the best part of a decade
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the other bob wilson
I wouldn't employ him as a chauffeur.
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mrbluejay
Well the purchase price can be amortised across the length of the contract, but any loan fee will be realised in full, so potentially yes.
Based on his answers at his press conference yesterday, Bulut played no part in the decision to loan him out - I don’t think for a second that he would have no input into the decision if it was a footballing one, so, if that’s not the reason (especially when there has to be a fair chance that we don’t sign another striker today), what is? Finance seems easily the most likely to me.
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the other bob wilson
Based on his answers at his press conference yesterday, Bulut played no part in the decision to loan him out - I don’t think for a second that he would have no input into the decision if it was a footballing one, so, if that’s not the reason (especially when there has to be a fair chance that we don’t sign another striker today), what is? Finance seems easily the most likely to me.
If finance is the issue then the question is why buy another cb (fish) when we have such poor options up front.
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the other bob wilson
If that was highlights from only one season, a couple of things immediately spring into my mind:
Steve Bull. I.e. Sometimes first touch, or even second touch, is not perfect. Not very refined, but quite direct and although looks awkward, he seems to score
The standard of football looks a bit harumscarum, but he seems to get involved in the game quite a bit.
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Hilts
If finance is the issue then the question is why buy another cb (fish) when we have such poor options up front.
I like the Daland and Fish signings, but you make a fair point.
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Hilts
If finance is the issue then the question is why buy another cb (fish) when we have such poor options up front.
I don’t think it’s a question of prioritising one position over another it’s more about availability.
I guess it’s like you have a shopping list and some of the items on the list are easier to get into the basket whilst to get some other items you have to have a little more patience.
If there's another signing today it will be a striker on loan imo
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Pedro de la Rosa
They want another senior striker, so that means they’ll have Kanga, Robinson and potentially the new one. Simic isn’t going to play, and him getting splinters in his arse is no good for anyone.
Re Tsunoda, nobody knows what he’s like or all about but Goutas will probably leave on a free this summer so he might be our 4th choice. If Fish or Daland look good, we’ll cash in as well.
I’d rather we signed young players with potential instead of the over the hill journeymen we’ve almost exclusively signed for the best part of a decade
They reckon he rates Isaak Davies, so he and Etete will be back in a few months too, so it's quantity rather than quality.
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Simic seems to have been Sunderlands main target, at least their fans believe anyway, seems they just want any striker. They have a 146 page Simic thread on their forum.
I just can't see us buying him to loan out when we struggle for goals.
Think this is one of those rumours that walesonline get wrong, of which there are a few.
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Looks like League 1 Birmingham have offered Fulham £10m for Jay Stansfield!
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Undercoverinwurzelland
Looks like League 1 Birmingham have offered Fulham £10m for Jay Stansfield!
No FFP in league one apparently, they have a cap on salary % of turnover though
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Undercoverinwurzelland
Looks like League 1 Birmingham have offered Fulham £10m for Jay Stansfield!
He must be really interested. No guarantee they get promoted though and i'm sure he could get a good championship club if he wanted.
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Undercoverinwurzelland
Looks like League 1 Birmingham have offered Fulham £10m for Jay Stansfield!
:yikes:
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It looks like Ivan Toney is going to Saudi Arabia. What were the odds on that?
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The Lone Gunman
It looks like Ivan Toney is going to Saudi Arabia. What were the odds on that?
He's just serious about dealing with his addiction.
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Nat Phillips being loaned by Liverpool to Derby.
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Josh Bowler to Preston on loan from Forest.
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Isn't it about time Chelsea stopped buying players!!!!???
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seems like tom cannon is going to go to stoke
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most boring transfer deadline day in years
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Re: The Transfer Window Rumours thread
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Rjk
most boring transfer deadline day in years
What do you mean? We signed a striker for a reported £2.5 million, shame he doesn’t play for us.
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the other bob wilson
What do you mean? We signed a striker for a reported £2.5 million, shame he doesn’t play for us.
there's a few clubs that 2.5m would be a record transfer