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So no links of Pep slating him publically for it then?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
He didnt make the team as he had to get used to the way City played ie release the ball quicker, keep it moving, receive the ball, pass the ball, stop playing for so many fouls and slowing the game down.etc
City don’t try to win the ball back straight away after they lose it though, they are more concerned with getting back into shape. Also, there’s a huge difference between the choices available to the managers of Man City and Cardiff City. Grealish, Foden and Aguero have been mentioned in this thread, well, if Pep decided that they were not working hard enough and they would be left out, he’s got alternatives with as much flair and creativity he can bring in as replacements.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
With Bulut and City, we don’t have anyone close to Ramsey’s standard to come in as his replacement - especially if the manager is stating that the two players on the staff who could probably do the best job in trying to replace him are not going to be considered for a starting place.
To be fair to our manager, the first three games we played without Ramsey were won, so his team selection could be justified, but nearly all of the pluses of those three matches have been lost by one point from the next nine - the question is does the loss of creativity we have to see with Wintle as the most attacking central midfielder get fully compensated for by the improvement we see in things like tactical discipline and work rate compared to if Robinson and/or Colwill was there? After the Rotherham game, the answer would have to be yes, but now it’s not so clear cut - especially when we’re conceding from every shot our opponent has on target like we have done in our last two games.
It's common knowledge and ages ago, it's Pep's philosophy, believe what you like :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
We are definitely missing Ramsey, he's one best players in the League. I'm not fussy about Wintle in that position, but I can see what he is trying to do especially away, which is to keep a clean sheet and nick a goal like we did at Sunderland.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
We were a bit unlucky on Saturday, Grant probably was in front of the keeper which stopped a good goal, and a couple of bits of sloppy defending, with NG making an amazing tackle to stop a second goal for them, but we created very little.
Tanner was working so hard when he came on, and I thought Colwill looked to be running and chasing a lot more than usual, maybe he'll get a game at home to Bristol?
Its all managers philosophy, tell us something we dont know, but ive yet to see many succesful managers publically call out their players for being lazy. Its the worse thing you can aim at a proffesional footballer. Warnock would do it to certain players when trying to deflect from himself, I would never agree with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
As Fergie said most recently on the Beckham documentary, what goes on behind closed doors, stays behind closed doors. And there was no greater man manager than him.
Besides, Pep has got a lot more in the bank than Erol who? The comparison is as laughable as you trying to put up a quote from Bacary Sagna and trying palm it off as Peps to make it look like Grealish wasnt putting a shift in. And even then what Sagna meant was Grealish has to work EVEN harder than he already is to keep himself in the team because they had just signed another excellent player.
The problem with making comparisons with Pep is that he has quality alternatives to bring in if he wants to stop picking someone because of their workrate. Bulut doesn't.
Pushing a player to work harder is fine. Dropping them when there's no decent alternative isn't.
That is a good point :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Bulut believes that his and Pep's approach of calling players out works better than Sir Alex approach of keeping it in the dressing room, there are good and bad examples of both, time will tell how good Bulut actually is?
Personally, I think modern players need a kick up the arse and prefer the Buluts approach to Hudson's arm round the shoulder and a poor response from the players, but that's personal choice.
Colwill is loved by the fans but four or five Managers have not regularly selected him, he obviously has talent, so why is he not a first-team regular?
Decent reply, Pep definitely does I added links on Bob's reply, he's done it with loads of players and it works for him, Mourhinio too, there are different styles but many top Managers call out their players and get more from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I know you dislike it you said the same with Morrison, but Bulut has got more from Tanner, I think he will get a bit more from Robinson and Colwill, time will tell.
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Does this make Bulut right or wrong? I’m not sure.
Makes him right to have realised he was picking the wrong team.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Do people think colwill is a great player or a player with potential ?
He's 21
I hope he makes it tick for us but it's a long wait
When he's had the chance has he proved he's got what it takes ?
I think the answer is in your questionQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Or did he push him to get more from him? As soon as the comments came out we knew one of them would be starting soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
By the time Robert Earnshaw was 21 he's made 77 appearances and scored 40 goals for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Maybe so, but in the process Bulut pissed away points with crap team selections.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
If you mean Wintle we also won 3 on the bounce with him alongside Ralls and Siopis iincluding a very good performance against Coventry. Robinson has been out of form as shown against Watford. Meite has just come back from Injury, as is Etete so limited choice upfront.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
The Coventry win was very good. We were shit at Sunderland, should have been stuffed, but pinched a late winner. We were uninspired in a routine win over dreadful Rotherham.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Sunderland win down to a solid defensive performance for sure, hence Wintle pressing from up top. But 3 wins is 3 wins. Clearly something needed to change, if it was you knowing it was Robinson or Bulut trying to push him to get more out of him to play the role. Doesn’t really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Robinson played well today
Agree and I think he can play better as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Robinson made Ng’s goal with two lovely bits of skill ending with the foul for the free kick.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Yeah he played well, pleased for him. I’m a big Robbo fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Superb away tactics against a team in form, and they worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
He got a response from Robbo, he definitely looked to be working a lot harder and we took control, Tanner and Colwill didn't work out as well, but the game was won and they were certainly trying very hard.
Different games Eric, we were very unlucky with a crap ref that changed the game by disallowing a good goal, he will sometimes play more defensively against good or in-form teams away from home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
We all prefer a more attacking team like last night, but horses for course's, fingers crossed he will use attack more often than defence.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-city-27977163
Erol Bulut says Cardiff City should have won by more as he reveals Robinson delight and dressing room mood
Cardiff City got back to winning ways with a 4-0 thumping of Huddersfield Town
Can’t help but feel if the game was closer we would have finished some of those in the second half, poor decision making and a few wanting to get a goal rather than making the right decision, in particular Tanner.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
it was a nice run to win the free kick, but Ng still had quite a bit to do to score from there!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
:hehe: Alnwick was inspired that game, producing a string of very fine saves. We defended for our lives at times as they ran us ragged. Alnwick made 6 saves and our defenders blocked 8 other attempts, some last ditched.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I'd regard a 1-0 away win where the opposition don't create much as superb away tactics. I thought one of our biggest smash and grabs was as Leicester in the PL when Camarasa scored late on. In terms of what we created, the Sunderland win was an even bigger smash and grab.
I'm not complaining that we won at Sunderland. Far from it. Claims that we got it spot on tactically are just a load of nonsense. We could have lost it 3-0 and nobody would have said that flattered them. They didn't, had a day when it wouldn't go in but we found a way. 3 points, thank you.
Spot-on. NCB needs to lay off the ketamine if he thinks Sunderland away was a tactical masterclass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
You need to lay off the meths, a great away win smash and grab and you two aren't happy because you couldn't moan (although actually you still are), defenders and Alnwick did their job well, and we got a hard-earned away win. We've been unlucky on other tough away trips too where we've conceded three, that day was a clean sheet and job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Stop crying because Bulut told Colwill and Robinson to work harder, because it's worked and they are.
Eat your words for the 2nd time this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
You really haven't understood the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
So since I said Robinson and Colwill should play they've scored 1 each in 2 games that have happened since then. I was criticised for this 'yOu kNoW mOrE tHaN tHe MaNaGeR'Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
But go on expand on this.
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Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
The Championship is not built for those who have the skills to produce moments of magic . Irs work ,,skill mire work . Robinson knows that looks like he wants away? Which is sad as he is obviously talented. ..
Colwill is young and learning, needs gym work and boss his position better..
That talk about Robinson’s attitude would have read much more true after the Watford game. His attitude has been spot on in the last two matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Robinson looks like he wants away?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Really?
What body language are you picking up to justify that claim?
The one I can see from from my seat, huge talent, loads skill, no real 90 minute game after game attitude, his running off the ball positioning has seen him wanting, at times this year, his body language has not convinced me he wants it. Think the manager has said the same.. Hopefully he will listen and deliver, same for ColwillQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
As a matter of interest were you there or was it another limited angle television watch .