Not sure he will. he's got what he wanted a get out of jail free card. He will feck about with the supreme court and that jack smith!! will be fired the day trump gets into the WH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Not sure he will. he's got what he wanted a get out of jail free card. He will feck about with the supreme court and that jack smith!! will be fired the day trump gets into the WH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It depends on whether or not he lets Kennedy and Musk off the leash, cos they are itching for a fight against the current government overreach, specifically food, health, energy, and government efficiency, but I don't think it will stop there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
https://www.theguardian.com/business...richest-top-10
The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.
The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.
Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.
The gains came as tech business leaders, including Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, chief executive of Facebook parent Meta, and Apple’s Tim Cook publicly congratulated Trump on his election win.
Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform.
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Originally Posted by jon1959
Interesting, can’t see X being banned now :wave:
Maybe voting for the 2028 election will be done via Twitter/X :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
The smugeratti are out in force tonight I see. Tell me, why do you find the story John posted funny, not disgraceful, when you rail against the “elites” who really run things?
What's particularly weird is the HAH! of people acting like they're proud of X as a website, like they have a personal investment in its success. And here we have two working class guys from South Wales just absolutely over the moon to see billionaires on the other side of the world get richer, I'll never understand itQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I thought Jon's post was interesting, but people perhaps don't take it entirely seriously because it's just another example of TDS.
Market slumps - idiots voting Trump wrecking the economy!
Market soars - idiots voting Trump making the mega rich richer!
You literally can't win
Wrong NightQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
All night
Working class my assQuote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
The more civilised cosmopolitan places like New York, LA, Seattle, Chicago….must despair at the rest of the country they have to put up with….Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I find it despairing that fellow Welsh men vote Tory or reformQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
TDS! I haven't heard that word for a long time, but I think we are going to see a lot more of it :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Well said mate :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Guess you mean the Hegelian Dialectic. Haven't seen any of the gifted club reference it for several years though there was a time that Gluey and Mrs Steve R seemed quite taken with it. Nice to see another devotee but what that has anything to do with the timeline mystic is anybody's guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I mean a few days ago he was taking some event as proof that The Freat Reset was just beginning, four years after it supposedly started. How Trump's victory fits in with this pompous bull, apart from a few meaningless cliches, we will never discover!
Bush Dynasty Gone
Clinton Dynasty Gone
Chenney Dynasty Gone
Biden Dynasty Gone
Obama Dynasty Destroyed but not yet Gone
WEF no more influence in US
WHO no more influence in US
MSN Gone
Fauci has it coming to him
Gates has it coming to him
Celebrity adulation means F All
15 million previous votes Gone !!!
Hoping for the end of the forever wars, he managed it last time.
Icing on the 🎂 CCMB meltdown.
Just for the sensitive, no I wouldn't vote for him but just look at the opposition, no vote and Joe was forced out for her, his wife went to vote in a bright red outfit, I wouldn't be surprised if she voted repub KH was annointed by the elites, and for this alone her country folk saw right through her and her masters, her campaign was appalling and the American people in a sizeable majority said no thanks. In 2020 she was 1st out of the race with very little support, grass roots Democrats hate her and they stayed home.
Say this again, but slowlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Maybe the rest of the country despairs at the state of the cities?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
'Typhus zone': Rats and trash infest Los Angeles' skid row, fueling disease
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna919856
"Beloved Part of Seattle Is Now America’s Deadliest Neighborhood"
https://newstalk870.am/ixp/133/p/bel...edium=referral
"Chicago earns disturbing title of America’s murder capital as DNC kicks off in the Dem-led Windy City"
https://nypost.com/2024/08/19/us-new...dnc-kicks-off/
"Poverty Has Soared in New York, With Children Bearing the Brunt"
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/n...c-poverty.html
TDS? Seriously? Trump wins and the rich get richer, and this is Trump Derangement Syndrome ?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
No, it is just one powerful snapshot that supports the view that Trump will bring in policies that not only enrich himself but also the other mega rich players who have had a major influence on the election campaign.
Some commentators - and not just the critical thinking elite of CCMB - have presented Trump and MAGA as champions of ordinary working people, and the antithesis of the Klaus Schwab 'Bond villains' out to control the world.
But it turns out it was just the 'same old, same old' group of rich and powerful players (whether or not on the WEF guest list) who are out to use US governmental power in their own narrow interests - and stuff ordinary, working people. A Trump administration will be their vehicle to achieve it.
Musk recouping all the $ he lost on buying X, with interest?
So what did you want to happen? For the American stock markets to fall?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
We probably share (no pun intended) similar views of the role of the markets in society. Personally I will never own a listed share, but I recognize millions do including millions of ordinary people and pension funds and the like. It goes without saying the rich will benefit most because they own the most shares.
But for people to present the dollar doing well and the US markets doing well as a bad thing is a tad absurd tbh, especially given their reaction to markets in the past after Brexit and the like.
As I said. You can't win. Had markets fallen you would have posted an article about how "millions of ordinary Americans see the values of their shares fall thanks to Trump"
Strange how there were those who made a financial killing after the Brexit vote as well isn’t it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I have observed a few things about the "buffoons in between" during the 41 years that I have lived among them, among which is their immunity, gained I suppose through frequent exposure, to European condescension.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
One thing that I think everyone can agree on is that the speed that they count votes is absolutely ridiculous
Two days in and California has only announced 60% of votes. Nearly no where is at 100%. What the hell is going on?
It's okay on this occasion but clearly such delays are a recipe for concerns and conspiracy theories to ferment.
All Democratic Party strongholds.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
You can't miscount if you count quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
You make a good case for independence, I wonder if they will do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
You can faaak right offQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I would rather starmer pissed off his head leading the country than your psychotic boyfriend with yellow poncey hair
This agaaaaaaaaaaain .Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
I doubt I would have posted a commentary about the US stock market moving if it wasn't focussed on the expected policy agenda of a Trump presidency that will favour his rich oligarch mates. That was the focus of the piece. The immediate market bounce on the back of Trump's win is a financial bonus for Musk and the rest. The real payday will come after January 2025.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
But they haven't just raised "in reaction to a Trump presidency that will favour his rich oligarch mates".Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Sorry Jon, that's Pravda style interpretation. All the major US stock markets have been rising steadily for about a year or more. They probably peaked further yesterday and today because there was a decisive victory and a clear and stable transfer of power. Ie less uncertainty. And yeah, maybe some are optimistic of a Trump presidency? So what if they are.
So it's not just his rich oligarch mates benefiting. To suggest it is, is frankly a lie. I looked earlier and one of the top gainers were Under Armour, the sportswear company. Another was a hotel chain. Another a bank
As I said. If the markets reacted one way, you would moan. If it reacts the other way, you moan.
"Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform."
Pravda, eh?
You are turning 'missing the point' into an art form.
You know, like Tracey Emin's bed!
That quote isn't a statement of fact, it's from a guardian article.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
This one says different
https://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/new...n-victory.aspx
"With the Republican party on the cusp of a clean sweep of Congress and the presidency, US markets are rallying. This is less an endorsement of every facet of the Republican manifesto, but because markets like visibility, and clear governmental control provides that”, says Michael Field, European market strategist at Morningstar."
Read Reuters, The FT, MSNBC, whatever you fancy and they will have slightly different theories and explanations.
The reality is the US stock markets have been going in one direction for a couple of years and the clear victory provided stability that topped them off.
Will he scale back regulation? I reckon so. Will he be pro-business..I imagine he will.. Do the markets like stability? Yes. Will the wealthiest have gained from the rise today? Yes. Have the wealthiest also gained from the steady rises under Biden? Also yes.
The idea that the markets rose because of a "reaction to a Trump presidency that will favour his rich oligarch mates" is clearly not the full story at all
With just one state left to declare, it looks like Trump will match his 2020 number of voters with a very small number, by the standards we’re talking here, either way and the Democrats vote will have dropped by around 14 million (j make that about 16 per cent). Where did that vote go? Some died or were unable to vote for some reason and it seems 3 per cent voted for other candidates. That would only Account for well under half of the Democrats lost votes though and, just like over here with the Tories, it seems like the majority of those who deserted the party just didn’t bother voting. Labour lost MPs because of former voters of theirs voting against them because of their attitude towards Gaza and I’m sure a fairly significant number of former Democrat voters in America’s abstention (or maybe votes cast for Trump) were for that reason, but my guess is that the economy followed by the worldwide kickback against incumbent Governments were the main causes.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Some have suggested something dodgy happened, but I see Biden has talked of having as smooth a transition as possible and I think it unlikely that there has been anything underhand at play.
What a hopeless fart Biden was
And what's he doing jogging up in those huge Hawaii 5 O sunglasses ?
he beat trump...harris wasnt even closeQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
It's madness though isn't it? Millions and millions of uncounted votes, three days after the election. Clearly this creates a vacuum which speculation will only fill and in this case even with the result not in doubt it still fuels speculation about whether Biden really did buy votes in 2020 or whether Harris votes are being hidden now.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It really is not a good way to do it. I get the timezones, size of the country and different states different methods complicate it but how the hell can California have still only counted 60% of ballots?!
America is a great democracy in many respects but in this practical part of it they are dire
Very good, now just privately take stock that you said something really stupid and learn from it and let's all move on with the threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
You can read why it takes so long here.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
https://www.kcra.com/article/how-cal...votes/62755363
If a signature is missing or does not match the signature on file, state law requires county elections officials to reach out to voters to verify their signature to ensure that their ballot can be counted. Voters can verify their signature up to two days before the county certifies their results.
I'm definitely not a fan of how the US runs its elections - but it seems to me that it leaves a massive paper trail so you can comfortably be sure that Biden didn't buy votes in 2020.
It is interesting how there were dozens of court cases that were thrown out without evidence, and dozens more that didn't make it to court - and the limp allegations are still here years later.
Drought or no drought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales