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David Sullivan steps down as co-chair of West Ham
Ahead of a Sunday newspaper exposé by the looks of it
Sullivan said: “I have recently become aware that factually incorrect and entirely false, decades-old allegations concerning my personal life are due to be broadcast and published.
“The false allegations levelled against me have been sensationalised by the media. After a lifetime spent building businesses in the adult industry in which I have met thousands of women, it is sadly inevitable that a small number of improper conduct claims are being made against me. I categorically deny these claims.
“This has been an incredibly painful decision to make, but it is one made out of love, respect, and responsibility toward a football club and a fanbase that deserve absolute unity and focus moving forward. I am stepping down to apply my full energy and attention on fighting these false allegations.”
It is understood none of the allegations relate to West Ham. Club confirms that CEO Karim Virani, “reporting into the current Board of Directors, will continue to be responsible for leading the Club’s day-to-day operations”
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Don't know if it's public knowledge but I read around April time when Brady left there was something about Sullivan coming out.
May have been on their messageboard or social media.
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NYCBlue
Busted.
Innocent till proven guilty isn’t it?
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West Ham United co-owner David Sullivan has stepped down from his position as joint chairman of the club with immediate effect following a joint investigation by BBC Panorama and the Times newspaper into his behaviour.
The BBC said Panorama's story is due to be broadcast and published on Monday.
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Wasn't he interested in us at one point?
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Coyote
Wasn't he interested in us at one point?
Before Sam Hamman.
Clive Sullivan, David's brother, tried to take over.
David was at Birmingham at the time and was blocked from being involved at two clubs. Clive was the front to try to get around the two club issue.
But it ended up being Hammam who came in.
Someone will be able to tell the story more accurately I'm sure.
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Michael Morris
Before Sam Hamman.
Clive Sullivan, David's brother, tried to take over.
David was at Birmingham at the time and was blocked from being involved at two clubs. Clive was the front to try to get around the two club issue.
But it ended up being Hammam who came in.
Someone will be able to tell the story more accurately I'm sure.
that's how I remember it, did Clive walk across the pitch with some massive scarf or something, put a deposit down and then Kumar slightly shift the goal posts on the deal
If my memory is correct, I believe Clive is the city fan and always wanted to own us, he name was floating about maybe 10 years ago with some takeover talk from VT
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William Treseder
Innocent till proven guilty isn’t it?
It is. But you get busted before you go to court. And I find it very hard to believe that his behaviour in the '80s and 90's will face up to the scrutiny of the 2020s. You don't stand down form your job to defend baseless charges.
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NYCBlue
It is. But you get busted before you go to court. And I find it very hard to believe that his behaviour in the '80s and 90's will face up to the scrutiny of the 2020s. You don't stand down form your job to defend baseless charges.
Whose behaviour does?
He's 77 and a billionaire. I'd imagine he would be stepping down soon enough.
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Trigger
Whose behaviour does?
He's 77 and a billionaire. I'd imagine he would be stepping down soon enough.
From his grueling job as West Ham chairman?
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William Treseder
Innocent till proven guilty isn’t it?
2.7% of reported rape cases result in a conviction. So, no. In some cases, you're guilty because you're a piece of shit and you definitely did it. See Mason Greenwood.
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blue matt
that's how I remember it, did Clive walk across the pitch with some massive scarf or something, put a deposit down and then Kumar slightly shift the goal posts on the deal
If my memory is correct, I believe Clive is the city fan and always wanted to own us, he name was floating about maybe 10 years ago with some takeover talk from VT
Nah I think that was Tom Baker
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Pedro de la Rosa
2.7% of reported rape cases result in a conviction. So, no. In some cases, you're guilty because you're a piece of shit and you definitely did it. See Mason Greenwood.
Don’t think you’d be any good on a jury. You ever seen a film called 12 angry men ?
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William Treseder
DonÂ’t think youÂ’d be any good on a jury. You ever seen a film called 12 angry men ?
Is that a film about the 74-75 Leeds United Starting XI (with sub)?
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William Treseder
Don’t think you’d be any good on a jury. You ever seen a film called 12 angry men ?
Remember the L-Train!
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William Treseder
Don’t think you’d be any good on a jury. You ever seen a film called 12 angry men ?
I think if 2.7% reported cases of rape get convictions, we might have a problem? Dont you?
Either you think that 97.3% of rapists are getting away with it, or 97.3% of victims are liars.
People like Sullivan and Brand deserve whatever comes to them
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OTT a little. But is this justice?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddq2971qzlo
I don’t think so.
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Pedro de la Rosa
I think if 2.7% reported cases of rape get convictions, we might have a problem? Dont you?
Either you think that 97.3% of rapists are getting away with it, or 97.3% of victims are liars.
People like Sullivan and Brand deserve whatever comes to them
If found guilty, then yes they do,
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Cleve van Leef
It isn't. I don't care how old and frail they are. If guilty they should receive a normal prison sentence
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Reading this it would be astonishing if the allegations aren't true:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...d-images-girls
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William Treseder
If found guilty, then yes they do,
But they won't be found guilty, that's the whole point. The justice system is broken because despite the massive evidence, you cannot convict someone based on the balance of probability. We all know what Sullivan, Brand, Greenwood etc did and they'll still get off.
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Going off the bits I've read this morning, and I haven't seen the programme, I don't see him being charged with anything.
Morally wrong, not a good guy, sex pest etc. I'm sure this sort of thing, to varying degrees of course was fairly common from men in power, particularly that industry. Even in my time of working, last 20 years there has been a massive shift.
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I heard on the radio that Sullivan is threatening to sue for slander/libel etc. Apparently he will have to prove that his reputation has been damaged. Good luck with that Dave
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He was banned from any contact with any of the women’s or youth teams at West Ham since 2023. Grim
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NinianKnight
I heard on the radio that Sullivan is threatening to sue for slander/libel etc. Apparently he will have to prove that his reputation has been damaged. Good luck with that Dave
Isn't that what Trump is also suing Panorama and the BBC for? Both will have a low starting point.
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Pedro de la Rosa
I think if 2.7% reported cases of rape get convictions, we might have a problem? Dont you?
Either you think that 97.3% of rapists are getting away with it, or 97.3% of victims are liars.
People like Sullivan and Brand deserve whatever comes to them
Tricky one, although I take a similar view, there are not many convictions for false allegations either. The consensual potential cases are extremely hard to prove either way, that would be why.
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Trigger
Going off the bits I've read this morning, and I haven't seen the programme, I don't see him being charged with anything.
Morally wrong, not a good guy, sex pest etc. I'm sure this sort of thing, to varying degrees of course was fairly common from men in power, particularly that industry. Even in my time of working, last 20 years there has been a massive shift.
That's true, even office Managers used their power in the 80s to try and bed pretty younger girls, it was more or less accepted.
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North Cardiff Blue
That's true, even office Managers used their power in the 80s to try and bed pretty younger girls, it was more or less accepted.
That good old British values of sexual coercion being alright if the victim doesn't realise its an offence.
It was always nonce/sex pest behaviour. Pure and simple.
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Jordi Culé
That good old British values of sexual coercion being alright if the victim doesn't realise its an offence.
It was always nonce/sex pest behaviour. Pure and simple.
Of course, and it was probably worse in the decades before from the sixties on?
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North Cardiff Blue
That's true, even office Managers used their power in the 80s to try and bed pretty younger girls, it was more or less accepted.
Slavery was also more or less accepted at one time. It doesn't make it any less horrendous, brutal and morally wrong.
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North Cardiff Blue
Of course, and it was probably worse in the decades before from the sixties on?
I miss these old traditional values where you could say to the female 16 year old admin junior, "you're legal now sweetheart, brace yourself, Daddy's coming..."
All in the spirit of good old clean fun. There was no harm in it.
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NYCBlue
Slavery was also more or less accepted at one time. It doesn't make it any less horrendous, brutal and morally wrong.
Yes of course, I wasn't saying it was right, just agreeing with someone that times and judgments and opinions on many things have changed.
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Undercoverinwurzelland
The thing that strikes me about this and other similar reports that have been appearing this week is they make no mention of the fact that, in reality, everyone knew exactly what the Sunday Sport and the Daily Sport (and Sullivan himself) were all about. Nevertheless, these publications were sold to anyone who wanted to buy them by all of the major newsagent chains, as well as the major supermarkets.
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The Lone Gunman
The thing that strikes me about this and other similar reports that have been appearing this week is they make no mention of the fact that, in reality, everyone knew exactly what the Sunday Sport and the Daily Sport (and Sullivan himself) were all about. Nevertheless, these publications were sold to anyone who wanted to buy them by all of the major newsagent chains, as well as the major supermarkets.
Exactly, did anyone at the time give a f*ck? Working on the buildings the Sport newspaper outdid The Sun & outnumbered it in some canteens (not once did I buy either, I may add). These blokes were taking it home, throwing it on the settee, their wives & kids skimming through it no doubt to get to the telly page. Me & the missus often mention that nowadays we’d be too uncomfortable to watch current television in the company of our later mothers. But all those years ago a fair few were feeding the Sullivan & Gold machine, are they now claiming to be horrified by the, probably true, allegations?
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MacAdder
Nah I think that was Tom Baker
That Baker chap again :sherlock:
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blue matt
That Baker chap again :sherlock:
Thought he’d f*cked off:hehe: