David Sullivan steps down as co-chair of West Ham

[NinianKnight]

I heard on the radio that Sullivan is threatening to sue for slander/libel etc. Apparently he will have to prove that his reputation has been damaged. Good luck with that Dave

[Pedro de la Rosa]

He was banned from any contact with any of the women’s or youth teams at West Ham since 2023. Grim

[The Bloop]

I heard on the radio that Sullivan is threatening to sue for slander/libel etc. Apparently he will have to prove that his reputation has been damaged. Good luck with that Dave

Isn't that what Trump is also suing Panorama and the BBC for? Both will have a low starting point.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I think if 2.7% reported cases of rape get convictions, we might have a problem? Dont you?

Either you think that 97.3% of rapists are getting away with it, or 97.3% of victims are liars.

People like Sullivan and Brand deserve whatever comes to them

Tricky one, although I take a similar view, there are not many convictions for false allegations either. The consensual potential cases are extremely hard to prove either way, that would be why.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Going off the bits I've read this morning, and I haven't seen the programme, I don't see him being charged with anything.

Morally wrong, not a good guy, sex pest etc. I'm sure this sort of thing, to varying degrees of course was fairly common from men in power, particularly that industry. Even in my time of working, last 20 years there has been a massive shift.

That's true, even office Managers used their power in the 80s to try and bed pretty younger girls, it was more or less accepted.

[Jordi Culé]

That's true, even office Managers used their power in the 80s to try and bed pretty younger girls, it was more or less accepted.

That good old British values of sexual coercion being alright if the victim doesn't realise its an offence.

It was always nonce/sex pest behaviour. Pure and simple.

[North Cardiff Blue]

That good old British values of sexual coercion being alright if the victim doesn't realise its an offence.

It was always nonce/sex pest behaviour. Pure and simple.

Of course, and it was probably worse in the decades before from the sixties on?

[NYCBlue]

That's true, even office Managers used their power in the 80s to try and bed pretty younger girls, it was more or less accepted.

Slavery was also more or less accepted at one time. It doesn't make it any less horrendous, brutal and morally wrong.

[Jordi Culé]

Of course, and it was probably worse in the decades before from the sixties on?

I miss these old traditional values where you could say to the female 16 year old admin junior, "you're legal now sweetheart, brace yourself, Daddy's coming..."

All in the spirit of good old clean fun. There was no harm in it.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Slavery was also more or less accepted at one time. It doesn't make it any less horrendous, brutal and morally wrong.

Yes of course, I wasn't saying it was right, just agreeing with someone that times and judgments and opinions on many things have changed.

[The Lone Gunman]

Reading this it would be astonishing if the allegations aren't true:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...d-images-girls

The thing that strikes me about this and other similar reports that have been appearing this week is they make no mention of the fact that, in reality, everyone knew exactly what the Sunday Sport and the Daily Sport (and Sullivan himself) were all about. Nevertheless, these publications were sold to anyone who wanted to buy them by all of the major newsagent chains, as well as the major supermarkets.

[splott parker]

The thing that strikes me about this and other similar reports that have been appearing this week is they make no mention of the fact that, in reality, everyone knew exactly what the Sunday Sport and the Daily Sport (and Sullivan himself) were all about. Nevertheless, these publications were sold to anyone who wanted to buy them by all of the major newsagent chains, as well as the major supermarkets.

Exactly, did anyone at the time give a f*ck? Working on the buildings the Sport newspaper outdid The Sun & outnumbered it in some canteens (not once did I buy either, I may add). These blokes were taking it home, throwing it on the settee, their wives & kids skimming through it no doubt to get to the telly page. Me & the missus often mention that nowadays we’d be too uncomfortable to watch current television in the company of our later mothers. But all those years ago a fair few were feeding the Sullivan & Gold machine, are they now claiming to be horrified by the, probably true, allegations?

[blue matt]

Nah I think that was Tom Baker

That Baker chap again

[splott parker]

That Baker chap again

Thought he’d f*cked off