John Bercow defects to Labour.

[the other bob wilson]

Can't see Conservative Central Office losing too much sleep over this really.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ack-on-johnson

[IanD]

Can't see Conservative Central Office losing too much sleep over this really.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ack-on-johnson

Unless he works his way up to become Labour leader.

[Elwood Blues]

Unless he works his way up to become Labour leader.

and pigs might fly

[Jordi Culé]

and pigs might fly

It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.

[Feedback]

It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.

just like Labour is a broad church, so is conservatism. Even traditionally, centrist Labour and centrist Tories weren't that far apart. It does amaze me that such people don't automatically align with the Lib Dems.

[Freitag 4.17]

and pigs might fly

John Bercow is very meme popular in a positive sense.. If we're doing populism now, which seems to be the case, he'd be a hit.

[xsnaggle]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

[Elwood Blues]

It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.

Dominic Grieve would be a credit to any party.

Bercow on the other hand.......

[dml1954]

All this proves is that Bercow was, after all, always trying to deliberately block Brexit and the will of the people (as was Dominic Grieve). The words two faced and hypocritical come to mind. Labour are welcome to him.

[Allez Allez Allez]

If only there was a forum for this politics stuff.

[Elwood Blues]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

Bercow was a very right wing tory when he was younger.

He has made a long political journey.

He did a lot of good things as speaker but in the end I think the power went to his head.

I think Hoyle is a much better speaker

[ninian opinian]

The Tories defected to UKIP a long time ago so don’t blame him.

[I'll give you the Malky!!]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

"Never a traditional Tory" is a statement may who know his political past would disagree with I think.

[Pearcey3]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

He isn’t an MP yet. He’s just joined the Labour Party

[Allez Allez Allez]

He isn’t an MP yet. He’s just joined the Labour Party

He won't be standing for election either, he's merely just joined the party.

Also, when he was elected speaker, he got 322 votes (June 22nd 2009). He was unanimously elected speaker in 2017.

[Whisperer]

If I was Labour i wouldn't have let him join and fecked him off just like Wimbledon tennis club did which he is still seething over.
He's a pompous little twat and comes across like the host of the good ole day's self righteous to the core.

[Hilts]

Well done Bercow.

Obviously couldnt stomach the bufoon and co. any longer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I wish everyone would defect to the democratic alliance party or something

Labour has had it and if it formed a new party in England with the flower power lot , the liberals and moderate tories there might be a chance of giving it to the conservatives right up the back passage

As it stands this country is a one party state

Of public school boys

[cyril evans awaydays]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

So apart from the fact that Labour and Conservatives don't take turns at being speaker, the voting records on electing a Speaker are unproven, that his seat was regularly contested by other parties whilst he was Speaker and he is not a Labour MP I couldn't agree more!

[dml1954]

I wish everyone would defect to the democratic alliance party or something

Labour has had it and if it formed a new party in England with the flower power lot , the liberals and moderate tories there might be a chance of giving it to the conservatives right up the back passage

As it stands this country is a one party state

Of public school boys

Voted for by a wide cross section of society, including millions of working class people.

[Hilts]

Voted for by a wide cross section of society, including millions of working class people.

Yep some people appear to be happy and see success as they have more food banks.

Starmer needs to wise up as people voting for the worst PM and front bench in history is staggering.

At least Wales saw sense.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Voted for by a wide cross section of society, including millions of working class people.

Not that many , the tory party is not the all encompassing church people like you think it is

Mostly daft little englanders and brexit types

Don't blame me when it all goes crackers

If the opposition unites the tories will get blown out of the water , this country is crying out for a moderate alternative to the tories who will soon shit on those that voted them in . Its what they do

The question is , will it the opposition parties in England unite ?

Its the only way realistically now the Scottish nationalists have taken a shed load of labour seats

I got pissed off with labour after a few years of Blair, his meddling in Iraq was a no no and the emergence from the other side of momentum and the likes of Diane Abbott .....someone put her to sleep please ....still hanging around means I am convinced now is the watershed time in British politics .

Accept that the labour and Liberal parties are dead , attract moderate , left leaning tories like Sarah Wollaston , who is now without a party and get on with an alternative

Boris , Gove , Patel , Hancock and the rest are right wing libertarian tosspots , they are a corrupt bunch of liars and any decent opposition would sort them out

But we don't have one and until we do they can do what they like

Starmer isn't the problem , his party in England and Scotland is the problem

[AfricanBluebird]

There should be enough common ground between Labour, the LibDems and the Greens in England to form a strong alliance.

Defeating the Tories should be a priority.

Democracy is at risk as the Tories strip away constituencies, transparency, independence from regulating bodies, accountability and voting rights (watch this space).. in order to remain in power and grift for a generation for themselves and their elitist chums.

So individual party mandates should all come second to defeating the Tories

[xsnaggle]

Not that many , the tory party is not the all encompassing church people like you think it is

Mostly daft little englanders and brexit types

Don't blame me when it all goes crackers

If the opposition unites the tories will get blown out of the water , this country is crying out for a moderate alternative to the tories who will soon shit on those that voted them in . Its what they do

The question is , will it the opposition parties in England unite ?

Its the only way realistically now the Scottish nationalists have taken a shed load of labour seats

I got pissed off with labour after a few years of Blair, his meddling in Iraq was a no no and the emergence from the other side of momentum and the likes of Diane Abbott .....someone put her to sleep please ....still hanging around means I am convinced now is the watershed time in British politics .

Accept that the labour and Liberal parties are dead , attract moderate , left leaning tories like Sarah Wollaston , who is now without a party and get on with an alternative

Boris , Gove , Patel , Hancock and the rest are right wing libertarian tosspots , they are a corrupt bunch of liars and any decent opposition would sort them out

But we don't have one and until we do they can do what they like

Starmer isn't the problem , his party in England and Scotland is the problem

you always use the word libertarian as if it is some kind of crime. does that mean you believe in the nanny state, intervention in every aspect of peoples lives and control of the masses?

[Jordi Culé]

you always use the word libertarian as if it is some kind of crime. does that mean you believe in the nanny state, intervention in every aspect of peoples lives and control of the masses?

I always find it ironic that a libertarian has restricted our freedom and choice of working and living in the 27 closest countries to the UK.

It's hilarious really.