Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
You have one currently in Wales but don't like Drakeford because he's not seen as a strong leader. He's stepping down soon anyway.

Labour's official position towards union (and the Lib Dems and the Greens) is shifting because of public opinion. This wouldn't happen if there wasn't a growing indy-curious position.

Tories unofficial position is shifting in opposite direction but more they act to act devolution the more people become indy-curious, which subsequently scares voters in England into voting Tory which suits them fine.

If you want to see the UK survive you (one) should vote Labour, Lib Dems or Green; if you (one) wants to see independence should vote SNP or Plaid; and if you (one) wants to see UK become England then should vote Tories, Abolish or UKIP.
clearly voting plaid is what people should do if they want independence

But less people in Wales vote plaid than tory

Is it just me ? Feck brexit , feck covid , if I was wanting independence I would vote plaid

But I don't and nor does most of Wales

They have had their chance , if they do well in the polls fair play to them but I can't see an independent Wales come 10pm tonight