Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
Before I answer that can you define what you mean by "locked down" please?
We've seen the positive impact mask wearing in enclosed spaces, good ventilation and good hygiene has had on reducing spread of a virus (anecdotally that would include flu last winter) so if I say those tactics should be kept am I meeting your definition of "lockdown"?

In your view are we saying it's freedom as there was before we knew about covid and anything else is "lockdown"?

Honestly, I re-read my message and wondered if I had said anything different to what MM had posted when he concluded time to get on with things and whether my message was superfluous. I don't think being aware that covid is more than death rates in the UK means you don't ever want to open up.
'Lockdown' whether full or partial is anything which, by law dictat or government order prevent an individual from doing the things that before Covid he could do without question.
So asking people to be sensible, wear masks in crowded places wash hands, don't cough on others, is not lockdown it is people using common sense. Telling us we will not get served if we are not wearing a mask is lockdown. The difference is being made or ordered, and doing it on good advice for the protection of your family and others
Positive impact. No we have not. It is like a construction site having security, nothing happens so the accountants say the cost of security was wasted. It's a flawed argument. We have worn masks ventilated etc, but we had no place where not wearing them led to a different outcome so we don't actually know if they had an effect or if the same thing would have happened anyway.

you talk of maybe in the future a variant may resist the vaccines. Once a vaccine is in place it is a fairly simple procedure to 'tweak' it to cover such events. (The people who make them say this), so should we live in constant fear of the may (only might mind you) one day perhaps next week or in 2052 be a variant that is vaccine resistant. Imagine if they had done the same thing with smallpox, flu Polio and all the other things that have threatened normal life in the past, when they had far less knowledge of prevention than we do now?

The stated purpose of everything that has been done and ordered was always to save lives and protect the NHS. Both those things have been achieved and those getting sick now either have mild attacks or if they go into hospital on average spend less time there recover fasted do not need ventilating and do not need intensive care.
so the reasons for lockdown of any kind are gone. As I said I see nothing wrong in doing things because they makes sense but having laws in place, and Wales made everything laws, which prohibit normal life and restrict freedoms is not a situation that can stand indefrinitely.