Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
Just a few off the top of my head (all with sources) And no one doubts enormous problems too, which you never offer a solution for. The point is, things aren't all bad. And all things that are bad arent caused by the government - many problems occur in all countries irrespective of government and cannot be solved without worsening another issue.


Unemployment has halved
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...mployment-rate

Means nothing is working poverty is increasing dramatically.

Minimum wage gone from £5.93 an hour to £8.91
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation..._Wage_Act_1998

Means nothing if inflation has gone up by more, which it has.

Income tax on the richest gone from 40% to 45% (I assume you support that)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation..._Wage_Act_1998

Not particularly for this, tax on capital and wealth needs to be increased rather than taxing the working man.


COvid ruins the data but we are no longer in recession
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...-growth-annual

We were one of the last countries in the developed world to come out of the recession.

Murder rate has fallen

I'll give you that.

Youth unemployment down from around 20% to 11%
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...mployment-rate

Again means nothing if you can't meet your basic needs on the wage you're on.

Covid ruined it, but government deficit vastly reduced
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...ernment-budget

Yep that was improving, I'd argue we shouldn't see a deficit at all however and austerity is probably the most damaging way to reduce a deficity

EMployment rate up about 5%
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...mployment-rate

Again, means nothing if people's basic needs aren't being met.

Stock market well up (good for pensions held in it)
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...m/stock-market

The amount of people who can't afford to pay into pensions is growing, we have one of the worst state pensions in Europe. Most people in the UK don't have stocks and it isn't really a sign of a good economy. I'd also argue that focussing purely on the stock market has led to harsher working conditons and lower wages. Capital tax increase is needed on this asap and this is from someone who made almost twice the average wage during the past 12 months from the stock market. I'd also argue there should be tax on unrealised gains similarly to how we pay Council Tax.

Green energy well up
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...g.png&usqp=CAU

Yes this is good and multiple governments are to blame for this but we should have built a significant amount of nuclear power stations to secure our energy independence and lower energy costs (we've lost the ability to build nuclear stations ourselves which unfortunately has increased costs significantly).

Housing starts more than doubled
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...housing-starts
According to the graph housing starts are still less than the 1980s - 2000s, we need far more house building in the UK, like we saw in the 50s as house prices are becoming more and more unaffordable.