Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
Ok. Please define what is a native Brit? All of my great grandparents bar one were English, the other Norwegian. 3 of my grandparents were born in Wales. Am I now officially native Welsh or am I still native English, and if so, what generation of my offspring will be allowed to describe themselves as Welsh? If I an officially native Welsh would I be allowed to claim such a thing if my mother decided to give birth to me a centimetre over the border in England?

I used to live next door to a Pakistani family when I was a child. The old man and his wife came to Wales back in the 50s and had a son. He married a woman who came from Pakistan but lived in Wales. This son has children and grandchildren, all born in Wales. Can they now be considered Welsh? The grandchildren coming from grandparents who were not all Welsh are no different to me. If I'm native Welsh now, surely those grandchildren of a Pakistani family can be considered the same?
Spot on Eric. This "native Brit" thing is utterly vacuous.

Here's a question I always like (apologies for the dates being a tad approximate) - how many people ("native Brits", I suspect, in the parlance of 'Lither') were there at 10,000BCE on the British Isles? The answer is precisely zero. The British Isles were believed to have been completely uninhabitable during the last ice age when the channel froze and vast ice sheets covered northern Europe. So, I'd say there are no "native Brits". It's an utterly vacuous and stupid idea. All British people are, by definition, immigrants.

However, let's carry on with the nutty concept to show how ridiculous it is even if you bend it a little. How many on here have done one of the popular DNA family history tests? And of that tested group, how many had 100% British DNA in their results? The answer is none of course. British DNA is an amazing and diverse mixture drawn from wave upon wave of immigration, conquest and railways (if you don't know the way the advent of railways in the C19th led to a much more diverse gene pool, have a Google).

There is no "native British" race, there is no white race, there is no Welsh race. Surprisingly, there is only one race - human - and we are all equal under the sun whether the numbnuts racists posting on here like it or not.