Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
1 - Agree. He has gone over the line a few times, and it's good he was called out on it and good to see others point this out too. You are right, some of his language cannot be justified.

2 - I'm not sure calling out online abuse is sanctimonious bollocks, given the impact it can have on people, but that's your opinion I guess.

3 - No idea what you are on about with Grenfell candles and especially not Nazi propaganda. You can't casually accuse people of that with absolutely no basis to what you are saying. I will criticise the German National Socialist Workers party (which ceased to exist 75 years ago) at every chance I can. Where has anyone ever defended them on here?

4 - Core conservative beliefs? What are they? This is a thread about gas prices. Not that it's your business but in the most recent council elections I voted one labour and one tory. What I am not is 'far left', but I do not have core conservative beliefs and I suspect I am far more liberal and open minded than you. I am a pragmatist and this thread was about that.

5 - The thread wasn't about the selfish decisions of a generation, it was about gas prices. Start up a second thread on that if you like, and hopefully you will all be able to listen to different views without resorting to insults. It would be an interesting thread, there was an article on the very topic in the SUnday Times yesterday. FWIW, I don't agree with the triple-lock pension and agree that too much wealth and power currently rests in land assets, owned disproportionately by the wealthy. You gonna share your lot a bit more?

6 - As I said, we know Doucas almost certainly doesn't mean this literally, but language does matter. You understand that when something is used against you or one of your beliefs, you just don't apply the same courtesy to others.

7 - I am personally offended when Doucas posts the bile he does. Partly because he does personally insult me (although his characterisations are absurd, and I was born in the 80s so it's merely another example of something he is wrong about) but also he insults people I care about.
If you don't support thier beliefs your a Tory, refrain from other view's challenged critising or your a red faced gammon and will be met by vile language and personal attacks ,welcome to he nasty side of socialism.. and alleged freedom of speech.