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Two years behind? The USA are eight years behind, would Ukraine have been invaded if ther3 had been more of a response to Russia going into Crimea in 2014?Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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I don't reckon anything. Just trying to understand your perspective.
Two years behind? The USA are eight years behind, would Ukraine have been invaded if ther3 had been more of a response to Russia going into Crimea in 2014?
Can't disagree with that.
A lot of yanks seems to be blaming Obama for allowing this whole thing to have started in 2014.
It's hard to know what goes on behind closed doors though.
Putin clearly wasn't happy with the Obama regime at that time, and isn't happy with Biden. When Trump was in power, they were butt buddies.
Was Trump bending over to appease Putin? If so, in what way exactly?
Does this all come down to Putin's unhappiness with NATO's expansion moreso than his own desire to put back together the USSR?
It seems Obama and Biden are clearly triggering him, whereas whatever Trump was preventing exactly, he was clearly much happier about.
Our Western media portray Putin as an isolated evil dictator, it's almost pantomime levels of stupidity, it's done just incase we, the proles become anti war and don't want to freeze to death this winter.
But where is the actual evidence that Putin is acting alone and not reflecting the general view and inclinations of Russians? Putin has a lot of support in Russia. This may cone as a surprise but Russia might not want wokeness, mass immigration and generic, nihilistic shopping malls everywhere, as seen in the American led West. Also, Putins replacement could be very gun ho...so becareful what you ask for...
The biden crime familly is implicated in the extortion of millions of dollars in Ukraine Biden threatening to with-hold money is on Camera for all to see.
https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/m...2020.09.23.pdf
add in the bio labs
add in the puppet goverment installed by Barry & Biden
Ukraine is a slush fund of dark money and corruption
#clotshot injury reports are being dripped daily
FBLie whistle blowers increasing in numbers
future proves past
NCSWIC
Mother Wefers and Deep Staters are desperate
the blowing up of NS2 was a desperate act
the world is being led into war to cover the crime
Trump was never supposed to win
Clinton was the choice to close it out and destroy the evidence
the NSA had it covered
Trump is still compromised, he knows the #clotshot is a bio-weapon but does not speak against it
Military is the only way
It had to be this way
I don't think that there will be a war but there will be a scare event
In other news
Strictly come dancing is back on the box to entertain the couch potato beer and fags fan club
Lardy still thinks there was Russian collusion
although in his defence there was, he was just looking at the wrong actors
Burnley will win 2-0
Have a nice day Clandestine
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I see that sensible debate about a serious subject has descended into farce due to the usual WUM/Armageddon cabal.
Weird thing for someone who joined in July 2022 to say.
Quite Wales Bales ish actually
WalesBale was also Ronnie Bird
I don't normally like long twitter threads, but I respect this guy and it's quite interesting (he is Russian and talking about Putins speech yesterday)
https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/...53684852150272
Jesus Christ
Yep. Ronnie was in some sort of argument (obviously) and WB replied to it in full Ronnie character, then spent a few posts frantically pretending he was just taking the piss.Jesus Christ
And someone posted a record of the respective log-ins of both identities when they were both posting all day long. The two identities were never on at the same time but alternated many, many times during the course of the day concerned.
hahahahahahahahaha
I fail to see the obsession with he was him before from posters who choose to use handles and not their names, I have mentioned previously i had a log in on this forum many years ago so long infact it was just a yahoo bulletin board back then and then it was the old board and so on. Aeneas Tinnboy Foreverblue OM was Balderdash and i once remember he liked playing the mouth organ NigelBlues matchday reports wales bales certainly isn't yours truly if it matters maybe he was Dai Hard? I knew Dai Hard. I spent a bit of time on Rivals but with work committments forum time became very limited.
Buckle up and
Plagiarised from my favourite investigative journalist.
All the ships are sailing in the same direction now...about to arrive at their common destination in the month of RED OCTOBER.
Durham revelations.
Trump Raid.
Seth Rich.
Ukraine biolabs/Nazis.
Nord Pipeline sabotage.
Maxwell's international sex trafficking ring.
Financial crisis.
Biden Crime Family investigation.
Iran Deal shenanigans.
Fentanyl drug smuggling.
Open border crisis.
9/11 revelations.
Massive election fraud being facilitated by foreign controlled Election Management Systems & Apps run by CCP agents.
Trump & his team doing even more openly public blatant endorsements of the Q community.
Buckle thyself up and gird thy loins in proper fashion. It's going to be biblical.
The Hunters Become The Hunted.
kin ell clandestine you have far too much time on your hands
dai hard now there's a blast from the past
Wolf , Dai Hard ,SBF , Cossy and co used to rule the roast over on the sleeping giants site . great times !
OM posted as Balderdash about 15 or 20 years ago. You're telling us that you can remember his style and have quickly recognised it all those years later even though he's using a totally different name?
And you think that is more believable than you being a multi of a regular?
Ukraine war: Russian troops forced out of eastern town - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63102220
That town is in one of the annexed regions of Ukraine which Russia will formally declare is part of Russia itself in two days time and will have the same status as Moscow or anywhere else within its borders.
It's speculated by Russian media and implied by their government that the instant they officially become part of its territory then the gloves come off should Ukrainian troops not remove themselves and desist from launching future attacks.
Think the gloves came off a while ago, wonder if he will bomb it to bits like he did when it was known as Ukraine? Strange these towns seem very happy to be back under the Ukraine flag when liberated from the loonies….
We'll know as early as Tuesday whether the sabre rattling below is sincere or not.
💬:The 🇺🇸 Department of Defense should not doubt our determination to defend 🇷🇺 national sovereignty, territorial integrity, and people by all weapon systems available to us.
— Russian Embassy in USA 🇷🇺 (@RusEmbUSA) September 30, 2022
🔗Read in full: https://t.co/NK6BSambqM pic.twitter.com/6hGgw4iLEC
How would it be sabre rattling if he's the controlled opposition? Surely there's no such thing as a bluff in that case
He's bluffed and blustered since February. Ukrainian forces have attacked Russia proper and Crimea, but he hasn't deployed any of his heavy bombers in retaliation. Zelensky's Kiev palace remains untouched. He could, so military analysts I have read say, have flattened Kiev at any time with conventional hypersonic weapons that are so fast no defence missile system can stop them.
I'm a bit more wary than you.
Bluffing is debatable. He's grabbed land previously with no consequence, and he's doing it again now.
I wouldn't be at all shocked if he used tactical nukes to continue his unopposed land grab.
After all, what does he have to fear?
The Ukraine is not part of NATO and never will be. So far, the west have refrained from any serious intervention, and will probably continue to do so.
Why not?
What's he got to fear?
John Pilger’s view on Ukraine ( first ten minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9pEotvlW-s
Do you not consider the amount of financial and military (hardware and training) support for the Ukrainian regime serious?
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-a...pport-tracker/
NATO forces are not directly fighting Russia - but indirectly USA/UK/NATO have poured a vast amount of armaments into the country.
The 'land grab' seems to be going into reverse at the moment.
Maybe that makes the use of tactical nukes more likely, to stave off military failure and political defeat? But I don't think Putin is mad or completely irrational. Capable of catastrophic miscalculation, living in a bubble of terrified yes-men, but not mad. (MAD - mutually assured destruction?)
His strategy seems to be: re-draw the map, offer peace talks, peel off as many Ukraine backers as possible, open new threat fronts, and wait for the world media and public attention to get bored and move on to the next story. Not fire nukes.
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