Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
Oh come on, all they’re doing is asking for the freedom to do whatever they want……………………..

and bugger the consequences for anyone else.
Who has asked for there to be no consequences to speeding?

The debate is about the limit.

If I say the safe driving limit on some roads should be 30, and others say 20 that doesn't mean there is dispute that people exceeding the limits shouldn't be held responsible for it. It's a dispute over the limit itself.

The invention of strawmen in debates is so frustrating, but always illuminating.