Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
Crewe must be massive if you’re going by railway stations Train stations are bugger all to go by, most main ones were built years and years ago with no room for expansion in their locations when populations have increased. You’ve more or less hit the nail on the head decrying outlying areas because they’re subjective. Therefore Newcastle is a touch larger than Sunderland but not as big as Cardiff, the population & km2 areas are there for all to see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_urban_area

Here is a map of the Cardiff urban area

It's about half the size and half the population of the Newcastle urban area

Newcastle merges South with Gateshead and then inland along the Tyne to form a densely populated area

Cardiff could be argued to merge with penarth but certainly not pontypridd and apart from the town of Caerphilly the rest of the valleys do not join Cardiff directly

To say that what people think of as " Newcastle " is twice the size of what people think as " Cardiff " is about right

Newcastle has a big arena , a bigger city centre , more night time entertainment , a big Chinatown, its bigger in every way

I would love our city and football team to have bigger crowds , be a better team , have more music venues , etc

But it just isn't as big and progressive as Leeds , Sheffield , Nottingham , Bristol etc

Just the way it is