Conservatives Vote Getting Split

[the other bob wilson]

I don't want tax cuts?

I don't want massive wastage, increased benefit payments, increased immigration, increased government jobs, and tax rises either.

You’ve got most of them from this Government.

[goats]

Driving through Radyr there was always the sickening Vote Conservative signs outside houses election time. Made u want to throw up.

Probably one of sludges former abodes, he’s moved up in the world since his Radyr village days

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Ask the Germans and Swedes about immigration too, they wish they could turn the clock back.

All of them ?

[North Cardiff Blue]

In my working life and as a pensioner, I’ve seen a change to Conservative from Labour in 1979, from Conservative to Labour in 1997 and the change to Conservative in 2010. I can’t remember feeling obviously worse off at the end of those Governments, yet as this one is, hopefully, coming to an end, I’m definitely worse off than I was fourteen years ago. I’m talking financially there, I’m not even thinking about the decline in the NHS, other poorer public services, worse trains, shit in our rivers and the way hardly anyone under forty can buy a house. A few months back, the Tories tried to tell us that Labour would take us “back to square one” - it was soon dropped because people were saying square one looks pretty good compared to what we’ve got now.

Weren't you a civil servant?

Of course you would want Labour!

Haven't you retired in the last fourteen years?

You are bound to feel poorer your wage has stopped.

[North Cardiff Blue]

It's not hard is it.

Tbh, I entirely understand the argument that after a decade and a half it's time for a new party. I get that, and I would argue the same in the senedd. I also get the argument that I think Bob makes sometimes about punishing them for partygate and scandals and things.

But the argument the economy is "crashed" and the problems caused by the govt etc. I'm sorry that's not true and it's kinda dangerous stuff as the new govt will face the same problems.

As I said, name a single western country not facing the same problems to a greater or lesser extent.

Can any of you do that?

The truth and common sense doesn't fit the narrative, it's all the government's fault, they loved the furlough, but don't like paying the money they were given back.

It will take years and a Labour government won't help, they will see come back to this thread in five years!

[North Cardiff Blue]

All of them ?

Yes ask them all, and see if you can find one happy about it, the majority aren't.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Yes Brexits the problem, shutting the country down for a few years and paying everyone's wages in furlough at the same time as most of the World shut down, was not a problem

[the other bob wilson]

Weren't you a civil servant?

Of course you would want Labour!

Haven't you retired in the last fourteen years?

You are bound to feel poorer your wage has stopped.

Ah, so it’s been a great fourteen years for those in the private sector then has it?

It’s very convenient to have all of these little boxes to put people in isn’t it - every public sector worker votes Labour

[JamesWales]

Still waiting for any of you to name a western country that isn't experiencing the same problems we have as a country?

Surely if these problems are caused by (and solved by) our government then that is an easy task isn't it?

[the other bob wilson]

https://www.theguardian.com/business...thinktank-says

https://www.bigissue.com/news/social...ssion-poverty/

[Eric the Half a Bee]

They won't have the first clue, God help us if we have another pandemic we will lock down forever !!!

People earning a decent living will lose out, people who rely on handouts will benefit, and immigration will grow at at even faster rate, house shortages for renters will increase, with increased population and landlords selling up, there will be change alright!

And what makes you come up with that load of drivel?

[North Cardiff Blue]

https://www.theguardian.com/business...thinktank-says

https://www.bigissue.com/news/social...ssion-poverty/

You understand there was a pandemic where the World locked down for years and an energy crisis caused by Russia, don't you?

[goats]

And what makes you come up with that load of drivel?

Sounds bang on….

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Sounds bang on….

Well that depends on your point of view

I couldn't possibly agree with that paragraph

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

And what makes you come up with that load of drivel?

He's a right wing tory

[goats]

Well that depends on your point of view

I couldn't possibly agree with that paragraph

Drakeford would happily have locked us down forever
House shortages will increase as more people arrive for the handouts, people on benefits love a Labour government as they know their monthly handouts are in safe hands.
Landlords are selling up, I know plenty, wealth is leaving wales as landlords go invest back in England, same with holiday lets. Next they will try rent caps as they spiral out of control due to lack of rooms due to their own short sighted policies. That will result in lengthy legal action for sure…..

[North Cardiff Blue]

He's a right wing tory

The tory's are about as right-wing as labour, they deserve what coming for them, they need to completely start again.

[North Cardiff Blue]

And what makes you come up with that load of drivel?

You don't know what day of the week it is, stick to daft stats like how many goals scored on a wedenesday after being one up in the first half that make no sense and leave the politics to the grown ups. Take Slude with you he doesn't know what year it is.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Drakeford would happily have locked us down forever
House shortages will increase as more people arrive for the handouts, people on benefits love a Labour government as they know their monthly handouts are in safe hands.
Landlords are selling up, I know plenty, wealth is leaving wales as landlords go invest back in England, same with holiday lets. Next they will try rent caps as they spiral out of control due to lack of rooms due to their own short sighted policies. That will result in lengthy legal action for sure…..

The benefits bill has rocketed under your lot

Nothing to do with Labour, 14 years of tory rule

Nothing to do with me