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  1. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    One of his strengths is his mouth.
    No, it is not. Never has been, never will be.

  2. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    No, it is not. Never has been, never will be.
    Well, it is. It's not his newspaper articles that get him support, it's his oratory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Yes, I do. 🤷
    Bit of an odd inclusion then innit

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    Bit of an odd inclusion then innit
    No, not really. It's a pretty accurate statement.

    Anyway, I can already tell this thread isn't about the air crash at all!

  5. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No, not really. It's a pretty accurate statement.

    Anyway, I can already tell this thread isn't about the air crash at all!
    Yup, and it was Trump that made it that way.

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Yup, and it was Trump that made it that way.
    Agreed.

    It does seem that the tower was understaffed though.

  7. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
    Probably better than the last 4 years.
    Is that like the 4 years before Biden were so great?

    If it wasn't such a powerful nation, it would be hilarious to watch America buttfcking itself repeatedly with shit presidents. Its preoccupation with left vs right is destroying it.

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Yup, and it was Trump that made it that way.
    The sad thing is that this keeps happening. I said to someone recently that we hear far more from Trump than we ever did from Biden, mainly out of sheer disbelief at his actions and comments. Americans seem to think he's great while the rest of the world looks on in sheer bewilderment.

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No, not really. It's a pretty accurate statement.

    Anyway, I can already tell this thread isn't about the air crash at all!
    It is but derailed by a complete and utter crass statement by Trump.

  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    It is but derailed by a complete and utter crass statement by Trump.
    Absolutely

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  12. #37

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    I think this is the article Trump was referring too at the press conference.

    Don't shoot the messenger! Posting for information!

    https://nypost.com/2024/01/14/news/f...-disabilities/

  13. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I think this is the article Trump was referring too at the press conference.

    Don't shoot the messenger! Posting for information!

    https://nypost.com/2024/01/14/news/f...-disabilities/
    Yes, this article seems like it was on his mind before the actual accident happened and looks like he took the first opportunity to score points.

    The insensitivity of the narcissistic fůck has hit a new low.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    On day 1 of his presidency, ordering a freeze on the hiring of Federal civilian employees which covers an understaffed sector probably wasn’t the best move…

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...hiring-freeze/

  15. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
    Probably better than the last 4 years.
    If you're an immoral billionaire. Otherwise, how so?

  16. #41

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    It appears as though there was another close shave at DCA the night before with an American Airlines flight had to abort it’s landing due to a Blackhawk crossing its path.

    It’s insane how many Military Flights are constantly active in such restricted Airspace.

    Also it appears as though the helicopter that crashed into the CRJ was flying at 200 feet higher than the maximum altitude it was supposed to at this part of its route along The Potomac.

    There seems to be quite a bit of debate whether the Air Traffic Controller was stern enough, just by asking if it saw the CRJ and the helicopter pilot thought that they did but it was a departing flight.

    To me though, with what we know it was the Helicopter pilot to blame as it shouldn’t have been at the altitude it was.

    That airport is horrible, it’s really only there for politicians/lobbyists to get back home 30 minutes quicker than going to Dulles Airport.

  17. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    On day 1 of his presidency, ordering a freeze on the hiring of Federal civilian employees which covers an understaffed sector probably wasn’t the best move…

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...hiring-freeze/
    Apparently, there was at least one Democrat politician blaming Trump for the accident before he addressed that news conference, so it's beginning to pan out inro an argument about numbers of public services workers along the traditional lines of Democrat (left) in favour of greater numbers and Republicans (right) wanting to cut numbers. That's a valid argument for further down the line when more is known as to exactly what happened. The fact that it seems both sides wanted to indulge in such arguments within twenty four hours of the USA's worst air tragedy since 9/11 happening is shameful and much more so when. one of those slinging the mud is the US President.

  18. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesp View Post
    It was without doubt one of the most horrendous public speeches I have ever heard. I was gobsmacked where he went after the initial condolences. He should have stopped right there rather than making it all about him. What a despicable human he is
    He does it all the time, the last time he was president his knee jerk reaction to the Beirut explosion was 'It looks like a bomb to me, it was probably a bomb'.. without any evidence to prove it.
    Turns out it was a chemical reaction that caused it.
    Utter Twat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Apparently, there was at least one Democrat politician blaming Trump for the accident before he addressed that news conference, so it's beginning to pan out inro an argument about numbers of public services workers along the traditional lines of Democrat (left) in favour of greater numbers and Republicans (right) wanting to cut numbers. That's a valid argument for further down the line when more is known as to exactly what happened. The fact that it seems both sides wanted to indulge in such arguments within twenty four hours of the USA's worst air tragedy since 9/11 happening is shameful and much more so when. one of those slinging the mud is the US President.
    Agree with you Bob, it's the usual tit for tat politics, both trying to get in quick and score political points and blame the others, rather than sort out the problem of too many aircraft in the same airspace.

  20. #45

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    Incredible that some people still take Trump at face value and think this is 'undiplomatic loose talk' from a guy who did 4 years of this previously. His argument that 'diversity means a lack of intelligence' would work a little better if he , or the old white men he surrounds himself with, could string a single sentence together but let's just shrug our shoulders and wait for the next worst thing from him.
    It's lucky the air industry isn't important in America though isn't it ? Otherwise the President saying it's not safe to fly could be a bit of an error.

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Agree with you Bob, it's the usual tit for tat politics, both trying to get in quick and score political points and blame the others
    No different to Conservatives vs Labour here.

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    Statement by a would-be controller yesterday:-

    Mr Brigida graduated from Arizona State University’s collegiate training initiative in 2013 – a partnership program with the FAA that was previously used to train and select the most qualified applicants.
    Andrew Brigida, 35, scored 100 per cent in his training exam but claims he was denied a position in an air traffic control tower because the recruitment process of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) favoured diverse candidates.

    He is part of a class action lawsuit filed against the federal agency.

    Speaking after the disaster that killed 67 people, Mr Brigida claimed that years of diversity hiring meant it was only a matter of time before an accident happened.

    “You want to hire the best and the brightest for this kind of job because it is a very stressful job and it can take a toll on you, age you prematurely,” he told The Telegraph.

    “You want to make sure that the people that are doing it are the best.”
    After scoring top marks in his air traffic control selection and training examination, he was placed on a preferred candidate list, until the FAA changed the rules.

    Under the Obama administration, the regulator replaced a skills-based test with a biographical questionnaire to attract more diverse applicants.

    When Mr Brigida tried again to become an air traffic controller under the new tests, he said he failed the biographical questionnaire because he “didn’t fit the preferred ethnic profile.

  23. #48

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    Yeah so there is a few things unravelling on all this.

    I have to say this doesn't excuse the crass timing of Trump's comments but I think it does explain what seemed like a random intervention.

    https://simpleflying.com/faa-air-traffic-controller-applicants-lawsuit/

    It seems that;

    A/ the air traffic control tower was understaffed

    B / the FAA is being sued for racial discrimination based on their DEI policies.

    C / they turned down 1000 valid applicants based on their race.

    I gather there are numerous class actions against companies at the moment which is why many are abandoning such policies which I think nearly everyone would agree go too far and go way beyond legitimately opening up opportunities for people.

    Correlation doesn't mean causation of course and Trump is taking one and one and coming up with three, and his timing was still bad but it's not random as first suggested.

    Feels like a real culture shift coming on all of this stuff, which is good in my opinion.

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Feels like a real culture shift coming on all of this stuff, which is good in my opinion.
    In what way and what do you support?

  25. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    In what way and what do you support?
    It’s a post full of feelings, gatherings and seemings.

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