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[Rjk]

I certainly don't think this is a good squad by Championship standards. However, I do believe the division is absolutely dreadful this season in terms of overall quality and I don't think City's squad is any worse than those at the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Millwall, Preston, QPR, Swansea, etc.

The biggest problem we have here is a poor management and coaching set-up, and consequently the team often looks disorganised and directionless. I've said from day one of his tenure that I don't believe Omer Riza should be anywhere near a management job in the Championship and I stand by that. The whole off-field set-up is a mess and the position the club finds itself in reflects that.

I genuinely believe the team has the potential to do a bit better. Not a lot better - this is not a good squad by any stretch of the imagination - but I don't think our side is any worse than some of those who are currently sitting comfortably clear of the relegation zone.

I don't think there's anything much to choose between 3/4 of the squads in this division, ourself included.

A couple of lucky breaks here or there, a decent set piece coach, not having the disastrous start under Bulut, the ability to not shoot ourselves in the bollocks at least once a game -any of those things would mean the difference between our current position and being much further up the table.

[North Cardiff Blue]

The real problem we have now, is we are right in the midst of a relegation battle, with a coach that has never been here before, and just when you need the right words, the right tactics, and the reassurance for the players, we have Riza talking nonsense.

There is a nice run of good games to get out of trouble, do you think Riza will know what to do?

Nor do I.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I don't think there's anything much to choose between 3/4 of the squads in this division, ourself included.

A couple of lucky breaks here or there, a decent set piece coach, not having the disastrous start under Bulut, the ability to not shoot ourselves in the bollocks at least once a game -any of those things would mean the difference between our current position and being much further up the table.

Three or four clean sheets and we stay up, but that never happens does it.

[Rjk]

All to play for - the bottom 7 are all deep in the relegation scrap - with the 3 above them not completely safe yet if they had an implosion.

[Toadstool]

Think out of our 7 games left - 4 are definitely winnable - with 3 of those coming up imminently.

In the same period Hull have 3 harder games - if we can win a few and get a bit of a gap we may be ok.

our last two are WBA & Norwich who could still be in the mix, whereas Hulls last two are derby & Pompy who may have switched off by then....

[TheBirchgrovePub]

Horvath

Ng - Fish - Bagan - O Dowda

Got to laugh at that GK and back 4 really in a bid to stay up.

Horvath - Shite
Ng - Shite
Fish - Ok but young and learning
Bagan - Has done ok but isn't a CB
O Dowda - Tries but is not a defender

[TheBirchgrovePub]

Think out of our 7 games left - 4 are definitely winnable - with 3 of those coming up imminently.

We've won 5 games in 25 and not won against Luton (H), Sheff Wed (H), Plymouth (A), Bristol City (H), Portsmouth (A), Oxford (A), Preston (H), QPR (H) in that time.

Where do you think the 4 wins from 7 are coming from as we've played and been comprehensively beaten by most of those teams in the reverse fixtures.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

just when you need the right words, the right tactics

Having the right players who are good enough would be even more of an advantage.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Having the right players who are good enough would be even more of an advantage.

Better than last year, but we keep conceding stupid goals, if he needs more protection for the defence so be it, do whatever it takes to stop conceding two goals a week.

I like him, he's a great bloke, but he is out of his depth, he doesn't know what to do

[Des Parrot]

I certainly don't think this is a good squad by Championship standards. However, I do believe the division is absolutely dreadful this season in terms of overall quality and I don't think City's squad is any worse than those at the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Millwall, Preston, QPR, Swansea, etc.

The biggest problem we have here is a poor management and coaching set-up, and consequently the team often looks disorganised and directionless. I've said from day one of his tenure that I don't believe Omer Riza should be anywhere near a management job in the Championship and I stand by that. The whole off-field set-up is a mess and the position the club finds itself in reflects that.

I genuinely believe the team has the potential to do a bit better. Not a lot better - this is not a good squad by any stretch of the imagination - but I don't think our side is any worse than some of those who are currently sitting comfortably clear of the relegation zone.

I can’t see how anyone can disagree with this, it’s basically a statement of facts.

This is still in “our” hands but no-one trusts (or understands) “our”.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I certainly don't think this is a good squad by Championship standards. However, I do believe the division is absolutely dreadful this season in terms of overall quality and I don't think City's squad is any worse than those at the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Millwall, Preston, QPR, Swansea, etc.

The biggest problem we have here is a poor management and coaching set-up, and consequently the team often looks disorganised and directionless. I've said from day one of his tenure that I don't believe Omer Riza should be anywhere near a management job in the Championship and I stand by that. The whole off-field set-up is a mess and the position the club finds itself in reflects that.

I genuinely believe the team has the potential to do a bit better. Not a lot better - this is not a good squad by any stretch of the imagination - but I don't think our side is any worse than some of those who are currently sitting comfortably clear of the relegation zone.

I think we have the worst back 4 and keeper in the league. We're complete hamstrung by the fact that we cannot defend. I don't think we can have aspirations for anything higher than a relegation battle when we cannot defend. I think we can get coached better but I do not believe we will pick up points when we concede the softest goals every single week. I don't rate either of the keepers, our full backs aren't full backs (Ng has decided to become a clown instead of a footballer) and our centre halves are dreadful. Bagan should be excused, as he's not let us down this season and that's impressive for a youngish lad in a car crash of a defence. Whoever ran the summer transfer window should be shown the door, rather than having puff pieces in WalesOnline

[Rjk]

I think we have the worst back 4 and keeper in the league. We're complete hamstrung by the fact that we cannot defend. I don't think we can have aspirations for anything higher than a relegation battle when we cannot defend. I think we can get coached better but I do not believe we will pick up points when we concede the softest goals every single week. I don't rate either of the keepers, our full backs aren't full backs (Ng has decided to become a clown instead of a footballer) and our centre halves are dreadful. Bagan should be excused, as he's not let us down this season and that's impressive for a youngish lad in a car crash of a defence. Whoever ran the summer transfer window should be shown the door, rather than having puff pieces in WalesOnline

Ng has been good since he came back into the side and is a good player at this level.

Bagan has done OK - H's never going to be a physically dominant centre back though, so he needs the right partner.

Fish has done pretty well after a shaky start.

Goutas and Daland have been error prone this season, also Chambers when he was at the back.

All of those 3 have some pedigree - and Goutas has played well in this league before, Chambers in the premier league.
They haven't all become bad players overnight - there must be something wrong with our defensive coaching / setup / mix of players.

they don't appear to be being asked to do anything which should be beyond them in the way we are trying to play so it's hard to understand what the issue is.

[jon1959]

Ng has been good since he came back into the side and is a good player at this level.

Bagan has done OK - H's never going to be a physically dominant centre back though, so he needs the right partner.

Fish has done pretty well after a shaky start.

Goutas and Daland have been error prone this season, also Chambers when he was at the back.

All of those 3 have some pedigree - and Goutas has played well in this league before, Chambers in the premier league.
They haven't all become bad players overnight - there must be something wrong with our defensive coaching / setup / mix of players.

they don't appear to be being asked to do anything which should be beyond them in the way we are trying to play so it's hard to understand what the issue is.

I can't see who is the leader at the back. Who does the talking and organising?

I don't see anything from Horvath, although Alnwick was fairly vocal.

Ng doesn't organise. He's gobby, but not in the sense of giving direction, spotting danger and helping fellow defenders.

Goutas, Daland and Chambers needed to concentrate on their own games to cut out mistakes - they were not (even when Chambers was at CB) leading by example.

Bagan is quiet. Fish is inexperienced and young. O'Dowda doesn't appear to organise or talk much.

There aren't too many leaders in other parts of the pitch either. Robbo and Ralls are - but they're too often in the treatment room.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Ng has been good since he came back into the side and is a good player at this level.

Bagan has done OK - H's never going to be a physically dominant centre back though, so he needs the right partner.

Fish has done pretty well after a shaky start.

Goutas and Daland have been error prone this season, also Chambers when he was at the back.

All of those 3 have some pedigree - and Goutas has played well in this league before, Chambers in the premier league.
They haven't all become bad players overnight - there must be something wrong with our defensive coaching / setup / mix of players.

they don't appear to be being asked to do anything which should be beyond them in the way we are trying to play so it's hard to understand what the issue is.

Ng cost us against Wednesday by trying to con a free kick instead of putting it into the stand, they scored from the subsequent corner. He does this all the time. Fish didn't pick anyone up vs Wednesday and their free man scored. He lost his man vs Blackburn, and that man scored. Daland isn't just making mistakes, either, he's just not up to it. Chambers hasn't played regular football since we were last in the Premier League, that's 6 years ago. Goutas made mistakes last year, we conceded 70 goals last season. This hasn't happened overnight, we can't defend, this lot aren't very good and they've shown that for quite some time.

[Rjk]

I can't see who is the leader at the back. Who does the talking and organising?

I don't see anything from Horvath, although Alnwick was fairly vocal.

Ng doesn't organise. He's gobby, but not in the sense of giving direction, spotting danger and helping fellow defenders.

Goutas, Daland and Chambers needed to concentrate on their own games to cut out mistakes - they were not (even when Chambers was at CB) leading by example.

Bagan is quiet. Fish is inexperienced and young. O'Dowda doesn't appear to organise or talk much.

There aren't too many leaders in other parts of the pitch either. Robbo and Ralls are - but they're too often in the treatment room.

No i think that could be a big part of our problems

[North Cardiff Blue]

Ng has been good since he came back into the side and is a good player at this level.

Bagan has done OK - H's never going to be a physically dominant centre back though, so he needs the right partner.

Fish has done pretty well after a shaky start.

Goutas and Daland have been error prone this season, also Chambers when he was at the back.

All of those 3 have some pedigree - and Goutas has played well in this league before, Chambers in the premier league.
They haven't all become bad players overnight - there must be something wrong with our defensive coaching / setup / mix of players.

they don't appear to be being asked to do anything which should be beyond them in the way we are trying to play so it's hard to understand what the issue is.

Spot on a good Managerial coaching set up could easily sort them out.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I can't see who is the leader at the back. Who does the talking and organising?

I don't see anything from Horvath, although Alnwick was fairly vocal.

Ng doesn't organise. He's gobby, but not in the sense of giving direction, spotting danger and helping fellow defenders.

Goutas, Daland and Chambers needed to concentrate on their own games to cut out mistakes - they were not (even when Chambers was at CB) leading by example.

Bagan is quiet. Fish is inexperienced and young. O'Dowda doesn't appear to organise or talk much.

There aren't too many leaders in other parts of the pitch either. Robbo and Ralls are - but they're too often in the treatment room.

Agreed that is a team weakness lack of natural leaders, a Gunnarson and Hudson type would certainly help.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Spot on a good Managerial coaching set up could easily sort them out.

We conceded 70 goals with your mate in charge last year with 3 of the same back 4.

[City123]

We conceded 70 goals with your mate in charge last year with 3 of the same back 4.

Exactly, don't know why some are pretending this is disaster of a season has come out of nowhere, we were shit for most of last season too and reliant on an unsustainable number of set piece goals and late comebacks

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Exactly, don't know why some are pretending this is disaster of a season has come out of nowhere, we were shit for most of last season too and reliant on an unsustainable number of set piece goals and late comebacks

It doesn't help we keep signing players that don't start. Something is drastically wrong at the football club, not that much has changed since Tan took over, with Mackay and Warnock papering over the cracks during their time here.

[The Lone Gunman]

Latest odds from SkyBet:

1/9 - Plymouth
8/15 - Luton
11/10 - Cardiff
6/5 - Derby
9/4 - Stoke
7/2 - Oxford
12/1 - Portsmouth
14/1 - Hull
25/1 - QPR
66/1 - Preston
200/1 - Swansea

[tforturton]

It's still do-able. but we have to score goals and keep clean sheets, and hope everyone else messes up. None of those things look very likely.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

It doesn't help we keep signing players that don't start. Something is drastically wrong at the football club, not that much has changed since Tan took over, with Mackay and Warnock papering over the cracks during their time here.

It's bizarre that so many of our recent signings don't make the starting eleven.
Other clubs seem to purchase players who are clear improvements on what they've got. Not us.

[Nobody's Rep]

It's bizarre that so many of our recent signings don't make the starting eleven.
Other clubs seem to purchase players who are clear improvements on what they've got. Not us.

We had 8 on the bench yesterday and a million pound striker isn't worth the risk so the seat remains empty - that's unbelievable when we are surely at the anything goes stage of the season

All Risa did in the week is diminish the goals simic scored by saying it was an under 18 side he played against - maybe true but why say that at all

[PontBlue]

Having only 8 subs was criminal and shows a lack of preparation by the club