Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
Ng has been good since he came back into the side and is a good player at this level.

Bagan has done OK - H's never going to be a physically dominant centre back though, so he needs the right partner.

Fish has done pretty well after a shaky start.

Goutas and Daland have been error prone this season, also Chambers when he was at the back.

All of those 3 have some pedigree - and Goutas has played well in this league before, Chambers in the premier league.
They haven't all become bad players overnight - there must be something wrong with our defensive coaching / setup / mix of players.

they don't appear to be being asked to do anything which should be beyond them in the way we are trying to play so it's hard to understand what the issue is.
I can't see who is the leader at the back. Who does the talking and organising?

I don't see anything from Horvath, although Alnwick was fairly vocal.

Ng doesn't organise. He's gobby, but not in the sense of giving direction, spotting danger and helping fellow defenders.

Goutas, Daland and Chambers needed to concentrate on their own games to cut out mistakes - they were not (even when Chambers was at CB) leading by example.

Bagan is quiet. Fish is inexperienced and young. O'Dowda doesn't appear to organise or talk much.

There aren't too many leaders in other parts of the pitch either. Robbo and Ralls are - but they're too often in the treatment room.