So how many years will we spend in Division 1 and possibly below?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

The problem is that some of this lot think they're good players, and all they have to do is go out and 'play' None of our defenders want to take responsibility, passing players on, looking at each other in dis belief when an opposition player finds space between them, they're quiet and think that they're footballers before defenders, and all that in a relegation battle. Utter ****ing madness. I swear it's some of these coaches feeding them bullshit.

Players have become overcoached, by crap coaches. They can't think for themselves (even players like Foden can't, admittedly his coach is rather good). But in trying to emulate Pep, thick coaches try to copy him like for like, and they can't because they're not Pep, they're Omer Riza.

[Rjk]

Have a look at how many touches our players take before releasing the ball, 3 or 4 on almost every occasion, especially in midfield, it slows everything down, allows the opposition to get back in, and the next pass is easy for our opponents to deal with, it stops any momentum. It's because everone is square on, no angles, hardly any movement, and when players do make short runs (Colwill is good at this) they invariably don't receive the ball, because the clown with the ball doesn't have the abilty to see the run before it happens. This is what we're dealing with, game after game, and it's why we can't play through teams, we never do, Everything is done in front of the opposition, and it's slow. Ramsey played that through ball to Ashford? for the alech goal at Sunderland, apart from that there hasn't been anything of note.

yeah we must be the easiest team in the league to close down. we make teams who aren't particularly good at pressing look like a prime Klopp team.
Several times Oxford chased an attack down all the way back to the keeper

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Obviously we haven't been relegated yet, but baring minor miracles we will be. I see quite a few of you think this squad of players is better than the performances having shown. Be that down to to poor management or of field issues, this maybe the case.
But what I have seen especially at home is a team with the most limited ability any since we made it back to the championship. We don't have one defender who can command the back 4, we dont have one player who can control the ball and look like he has time and space to command the midfield and we have no one upfront with ability to scare opposition defences. In fact I have never seen a more one paced city team in thought and deed than this for a long time. There is no suprise we are on the brink, the team is poor. And for Division 1 I see no difference, I see none of our main starting players setting the division on fire. We have built a team of division 1 standard players and it looks like where it's heading!

I agree. I don't see how league 1 is going to be any kinder to this squad.

[Rjk]

I agree. I don't see how league 1 is going to be any kinder to this squad.

it was a lot kinder to Portsmouth, Derby and Oxford

[Der Kaiser]

it was a lot kinder to Portsmouth, Derby and Oxford

It's kind to the vast majority of teams that get relegated out of the championship.

Of the 49 different clubs (MK Dons and Wimbledon treated separately) to be relegated to the 3rd tier at some point since 2001 only 13 clubs haven't returned at all. Some have come back up and then subsequently been relegated again, others have stayed up and not gone back down. It tends to level out with clubs of our size ending up back in the 2nd tier, and the vast majority of those who have suffered relegation and never come back are small clubs so it's no surprise in their case.

Basically every single club around our size comes back and most pretty quickly. Reading are currently the only club around our size who have gone down in that time and are yet to return, granted it's only 2 seasons so far for them and they are already very competitive despite being an absolute circus.

[North Cardiff Blue]

It's kind to the vast majority of teams that get relegated out of the championship.

Of the 49 different clubs (MK Dons and Wimbledon treated separately) to be relegated to the 3rd tier at some point since 2001 only 13 clubs haven't returned at all. Some have come back up and then subsequently been relegated again, others have stayed up and not gone back down. It tends to level out with clubs of our size ending up back in the 2nd tier, and the vast majority of those who have suffered relegation and never come back are small clubs so it's no surprise in their case.

Basically every single club around our size comes back and most pretty quickly. Reading are currently the only club around our size who have gone down in that time and are yet to return, granted it's only 2 seasons so far for them and they are already very competitive despite being an absolute circus.

This gives Tan and the club a chance to wipe the slate clean and come back stronger with a clear strategy, lets just hope he can see and do it.

[Der Kaiser]

This gives Tan and the club a chance to wipe the slate clean and come back stronger with a clear strategy, lets just hope he can see and do it.

I honestly don't think this is the disaster that people think it is. It's obviously very very disappointing but it's also football, we aren't exactly a powerhouse of a football club and we never have been so we were going to drop eventually.

That said, looking at the amount of clubs that have gone down and come back, with quite a few being ran arguably worse than ourselves and it's not unreasonable to think we're back in the championship within 3 seasons. I wouldn't even be surprised if we have the same starting XI next season give or take a few and we finish in the playoffs in League 1. If the team had the belief to hold onto the our leads this season we'd have finished a lot higher up, we just need to find a manager who can make them more ruthless and assured when defending.

I look forward to this thread being dug up in 2035 when we're finishing bottom half of league 1 for the 10th successive season

[North Cardiff Blue]

I honestly don't think this is the disaster that people think it is. It's obviously very very disappointing but it's also football, we aren't exactly a powerhouse of a football club and we never have been so we were going to drop eventually.

That said, looking at the amount of clubs that have gone down and come back, with quite a few being ran arguably worse than ourselves and it's not unreasonable to think we're back in the championship within 3 seasons. I wouldn't even be surprised if we have the same starting XI next season give or take a few and we finish in the playoffs in League 1. If the team had the belief to hold onto the our leads this season we'd have finished a lot higher up, we just need to find a manager who can make them more ruthless and assured when defending.

I look forward to this thread being dug up in 2035 when we're finishing bottom half of league 1 for the 10th successive season

Yeah, I'm starting to wrap my head around it. A lot can change between now and the start of the season. It’ll be interesting, but Tan now has a chance to reflect on what went wrong and implement some major changes from the top down.

[dandywarhol]

One.(decade)

[The Bloop]

None of the teams currently in League 1 have been there for more than 10 years. We won't last that long. (But I'm non-committal on which direction we'll exit the division 😀)

[Cowbridge Blue]

Paramount +have shown a lot of Wrexham games this season so I've had the opportunity to view many of the teams that would become rivals.

More than half the division is very ordinary and I don't think our current squad would have too much trouble being one of the best 3.

Requirements: a solid defence, average midfield, a handful of regular goal scorers

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Requirements: a solid defence, average midfield, a handful of regular goal scorers

We're stuffed, then

[goats]

This gives Tan and the club a chance to wipe the slate clean and come back stronger with a clear strategy, lets just hope he can see and do it.

Are you pissed?

[Joe Gillis]

Paramount +have shown a lot of Wrexham games this season so I've had the opportunity to view many of the teams that would become rivals.

More than half the division is very ordinary and I don't think our current squad would have too much trouble being one of the best 3.

Requirements: a solid defence, average midfield, a handful of regular goal scorers

I have no confidence in our defence or midfield taking league1 by the scruff of the neck, I'll go easy on our forward line as they get zero service anyway

[Delbert]

I think we’ll bounce straight back up. We have Vincent Tan’s strategic vision, Head of Recruitment Patrick Deboys and his “one of the most efficient recruitment departments in the league”, Dalman and his ability to source top managerial talent, a board of Directors loaded with football expertise and a squad of players so gifted I’ll be amazed if we can hang onto any of them. Can’t wait for the new season.

[horse_face]

18 years I reckon.

The way this club is run, survival in league one will be an achievement.

8/9 years if we manage to stay up in the first season

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Birmingham have of course come straight back, but their transfer and wage budget has been huge by even Championship standard. With 2 games left Huddersfield are 9th, Rotherham 13th, Huddersfield finished last season on 45 points, probably more than we'll get.

[The Lone Gunman]

Birmingham have of course come straight back, but their transfer and wage budget has been huge by even Championship standard. With 2 games left Huddersfield are 9th, Rotherham 13th, Huddersfield finished last season on 45 points, probably more than we'll get.

Interesting that you've mentioned those two clubs.

Huddersfield's average attendance last season was 19,418. This year it's 18,728.

Rotherham's average attendance last season was 10,674. This year it's 9,300.

Despite the fact that they are both no more than mid-table League One sides this season, their attendances are broadly comparable to last season when they were getting relegated from the Championship.

Nevertheless, your prediction is that City's attendances will drop off a cliff if we get relegated.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Are you pissed?

No, but I understand why you would think so. Maybe one day he will reflect and think, "I'll start again," as most people do when they realise what they are doing is not working. A costly relegation should be just that time!