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    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I've expressed my opinions before and was probably in a 1% minority ! But I still struggle to see what people see in him. He's almost pathologically slow on the ground, either moving, with the ball at his feet, or trying to score. So last night the defender [of the worst team on the EFL] effectively had him in his pocket. Salech never once came off his marker preferring to grapple it out with him - he barely won the ball once, and then gave it away when he did. He'll score some goals from crosses and corners, but the hype around him has been massively overdone..
    I think the Cheltenham centre half had Salech in his pocket is as bonkers as the Lamb thread during Covid. 😂😂😂

  2. #27

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    I can't comment on last night's game - apart from a three-minute highlights video, I didn't see it - but Salech has cut a frustrated figure during recent matches. He's often looked isolated up front and things haven't quite been dropping for him. Nevertheless, I think he's been doing OK and it won't be a surprise if he scores a few during the coming weeks.

    There should be some balance, though. I like his attitude, I think he's decent enough and I believe he'll be a significant asset at this level in due course, but he's clearly far from the finished article and I don't believe he's as good as some seem to think he is.

  3. #28

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Thought he held the ball up well last night on a number of occasions, particularly when played to feet.

    Few awkward moments but the guy is what 6'5, has a good goal ratio for us, if he could move and dribble like Rubin then he wouldn't be anywhere near us.

    He looks very frustrated, so many fouls against him are just ignored and then the slightest thing he does is picked up. Reminds me of some of the shit that Moore has to get through.

    We could definitely do with giving him a few more crosses to compete for, don't blindly get it in every time but maybe a few times a match just a quicker ball in for him to attack. Still a bit too isolated at times.

  4. #29

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I've expressed my opinions before and was probably in a 1% minority ! But I still struggle to see what people see in him. He's almost pathologically slow on the ground, either moving, with the ball at his feet, or trying to score. So last night the defender [of the worst team on the EFL] effectively had him in his pocket. Salech never once came off his marker preferring to grapple it out with him - he barely won the ball once, and then gave it away when he did. He'll score some goals from crosses and corners, but the hype around him has been massively overdone..
    How can you say that his marker had him in his pocket, when he was fouled every time they went for the ball? The only person the marker had in his pocket was the useless referee, who finally booked him in the 91st minute.

  5. #30

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    During the first half the sky sports+ commentary said Salech was putting in a mom performance terrorising the centre halves

  6. #31

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    several games this season opposing fans have been complimentary about him, he's doing fine

  7. #32

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    He is a quality player - but he's a target man. He doesn't have masses of trickery or acceleration to lose a player - but he holds the ball up, is an effective outlet in build up and is arguably the best finisher we have. He's also playing this season in a totally new style from last season so is maybe taking time adjusting. He'll start banging them in soon.

  8. #33

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    This is.. certainly a take..

    I think he's been roughed up a bit this season, particularly on the road, and cuts a very frustrated figure. Not getting a lot of sympathy from officials at the minute. Confident the goals will come though. It's early days. For me he's easily the best number 9 we've had since Kieffer.

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    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Quote Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
    He is always fouling.
    He gives the ball away cheaply.
    He doesn't hold the long ball up, as a 6 ft 5 lump should.
    He doesn't score enough goals...this season
    I think that he holds the ball up really well and looks so strong. In fact, he is the counter opposite to so many strikers that we have had recently who just got pushed off the ball and out muscled (Etete, Glazel)

    I’d hate to have to play against him or see how our own centre backs would get on against him!

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    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Salech has cut a frustrated figure at times but he's a striker and I'm going to assume is hungry to get on the scoresheet.

    And perhaps my opinion is with rose-tinted specs, but I think for the most part he's put in decent performances this season, but just not quite firing on all cylinders yet.

    He's been hounded by the opposition this season, probably should have won at least one or even two penalties. He is guilty of snatching at some chances that have come his way but so has Robinson, both have lacked that composure inside the box when a chance comes to them. However with that said, his work rate in my opinion is unquestionable, even if he does look frustrated. He's constantly making runs but with Cardiff's patient play the ball more often or not is recycled. But the modern game as what BBM is trying to employ results in strikers often not getting many touches of the ball. But even when he doesn't receive the ball, he is never static and constantly making runs and I think is one of the reasons why players like Rubin have shone this season because his presence demands defenders to commit themselves, which is providing players like Rubin, Willock etc... the opportunity to break through the lines and into space.

    I'm confident he'll get over 15 goals this season. Just a matter of opportunities coming to him and finding composure in front of goal.

  11. #36

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Quote Originally Posted by SuisseBluebird View Post
    Salech has cut a frustrated figure at times but he's a striker and I'm going to assume is hungry to get on the scoresheet.

    And perhaps my opinion is with rose-tinted specs, but I think for the most part he's put in decent performances this season, but just not quite firing on all cylinders yet.

    He's been hounded by the opposition this season, probably should have won at least one or even two penalties. He is guilty of snatching at some chances that have come his way but so has Robinson, both have lacked that composure inside the box when a chance comes to them. However with that said, his work rate in my opinion is unquestionable, even if he does look frustrated. He's constantly making runs but with Cardiff's patient play the ball more often or not is recycled. But the modern game as what BBM is trying to employ results in strikers often not getting many touches of the ball. But even when he doesn't receive the ball, he is never static and constantly making runs and I think is one of the reasons why players like Rubin have shone this season because his presence demands defenders to commit themselves, which is providing players like Rubin, Willock etc... the opportunity to break through the lines and into space.

    I'm confident he'll get over 15 goals this season. Just a matter of opportunities coming to him and finding composure in front of goal.
    Spot on for me - I would also add he seems to enjoy the success of others and is quick to congratulate others when they score - seems a team player and also has a good rapport with the fans 👍

  12. #37

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    While the opposition defence is worrying about Salech, the rest of the team get some space to shine. He’s going to score goals, but being double-marked every game is going to make it harder. He’ll be fine.

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    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Quote Originally Posted by SuisseBluebird View Post
    Salech has cut a frustrated figure at times but he's a striker and I'm going to assume is hungry to get on the scoresheet.

    And perhaps my opinion is with rose-tinted specs, but I think for the most part he's put in decent performances this season, but just not quite firing on all cylinders yet.

    He's been hounded by the opposition this season, probably should have won at least one or even two penalties. He is guilty of snatching at some chances that have come his way but so has Robinson, both have lacked that composure inside the box when a chance comes to them. However with that said, his work rate in my opinion is unquestionable, even if he does look frustrated. He's constantly making runs but with Cardiff's patient play the ball more often or not is recycled. But the modern game as what BBM is trying to employ results in strikers often not getting many touches of the ball. But even when he doesn't receive the ball, he is never static and constantly making runs and I think is one of the reasons why players like Rubin have shone this season because his presence demands defenders to commit themselves, which is providing players like Rubin, Willock etc... the opportunity to break through the lines and into space.

    I'm confident he'll get over 15 goals this season. Just a matter of opportunities coming to him and finding composure in front of goal.
    The team needs to start to pressure the referee every time he's dragged down. Cowlill, Chambers, and the rest need to be building a case from the start, only then will he get his fair share of penalties.

  14. #39

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    We do yeah. Doesn't change the fact he's a good player.
    In the right set up i'm almost sure you are right

  15. #40

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Not the finished article by any means but why would he be at this point? I feel overall he is doing very well. The defender was virtually playing a different sport -
    wrestling - last night. HeÂ’ll get his fair share of goals this season and his hold up play is good.
    I should add that the Cheltenham number nine fouled throughout and definitely hit the much battered Lawlor on a few occasions.

  16. #41

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    The lad can work well but not in this set up. Many saying he is holding the ball up!! And then what happens? One said he was decent! If someone asked you if you were good at your job! Would you answer decent.
    His matches will come when we need a tall striker type player.

  17. #42

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Quote Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
    He is always fouling.
    He gives the ball away cheaply.
    He doesn't hold the long ball up, as a 6 ft 5 lump should.
    He doesn't score enough goals...this season
    I agree with you on all points.

    However, the points not mentioned are the reason he's still a good prospect.

    • He's almost always in the box sniffing for a goal
    • He gets his head on a lot of the half decent crosses
    • He does have flickers of brilliant vision (he make a beautiful delicate pass on the edge of the box which unlocked Cheltenham unless im mistaken)

    So many of our past strikers drop too deep and are found missing when we have a quick break. Then you'll see the dreaded turn on the ball and passing back to the CBs. If we can play around Salech more he may look an impressive player yet.

  18. #43

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Salech is doing what Meite was doing last season. More concerned with the man than the ball. Wish someone would tell him to focus on the ball only. He would be a much better player for it.

  19. #44

    Re: I don't think Salech is any good

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I've expressed my opinions before and was probably in a 1% minority ! But I still struggle to see what people see in him. He's almost pathologically slow on the ground, either moving, with the ball at his feet, or trying to score. So last night the defender [of the worst team on the EFL] effectively had him in his pocket. Salech never once came off his marker preferring to grapple it out with him - he barely won the ball once, and then gave it away when he did. He'll score some goals from crosses and corners, but the hype around him has been massively overdone..
    Had him in his pocket? I’m sorry, what? 😂

    I thought he battled well and had a good game. The goals will come.

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