Riot in Ely

[Canton Kev]

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There is a specific reason why it all kicked off, and I haven't seen anybody mention it on here.

Which is?

[The Bloop]

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It was a sur-ron e bike not a scooter, they're dangerously fast and you see a lot of them around Ely.

A lot of Ely residents saying it was a police chase, so who knows. Surprised so many people actually trust south wales police with their track record. They're notoriously the most corrupt force in the UK? I've had a terrible experience with them about 10 years ago, with false statements produced. So I'm not automatically believing there wasn't a chase, My mate who lives in Ely told me about the incident, and the rumour about the police chase/bus involved, a while before the riots broke out. I'll wait for the truth to come out.

The riots are a disgrace by the way, causing more bother for neighbours than the police.

The cctv appears to show a van following a bike. For it to be a police 'chase' then authority would have to be given based on the circumstances at the time. The driver also needs to be an advanced driver.
I doubt that this was an authorised chase or pursuit, and that the van was just following at a safe distance, whatever the perception and interpretationof those that saw it.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Which is?

Because Bamba and Morison have been linked with the Managers job!

[North Cardiff Blue]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65687785

CCTV shows police following bike..

That van was quite close, and looked like a chase to me, why were they chasing/following them?

[Des Parrot]

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It was a sur-ron e bike not a scooter, they're dangerously fast.

It’s basically an electric trials or motor cross bike but classified as a cycle and capable of 50mph & bleeding expensive, £4.5k to £5k

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65687785

CCTV shows police following bike..

The police may have been following to ensure safety but they could be seen as chasing ?

Wtf are the police doing denying they were involved in this matter before the death of these kids ?

They look very bad now this footage has come to light

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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That van was quite close, and looked like a chase to me, why were they chasing/following them?

Wether it was an authorised chase or not that will appear as the police on the heels of those two kids

And when they have earlier said they were not involved in the chase and only attended after the crash you can't blame people for being very angry

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Wether it was an authorised chase or not that will appear as the police on the heels of those two kids

And when they have earlier said they were not involved in the chase and only attended after the crash you can't blame people for being very angry

Yes, it is starting to unfold, those types of electric bikes with a throttle are illegal, I think the police have the power to confiscate and crush them.

[City123]

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It was a sur-ron e bike not a scooter, they're dangerously fast and you see a lot of them around Ely.

A lot of Ely residents saying it was a police chase, so who knows. Surprised so many people actually trust south wales police with their track record. They're notoriously the most corrupt force in the UK? I've had a terrible experience with them about 10 years ago, with false statements produced. So I'm not automatically believing there wasn't a chase, My mate who lives in Ely told me about the incident, and the rumour about the police chase/bus involved, a while before the riots broke out. I'll wait for the truth to come out.

The riots are a disgrace by the way, causing more bother for neighbours than the police.

It always surprises me how quick people are to believe what the police say after an incident, especially considering their track record. Natural reaction to authority figures perhaps?

I've never understood smashing up your own community, the destruction last night was disgusting.

[dandywarhol]

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I nearly knocked down a kid on a
electric scooter..
Thety are a fuvking nuisance.
No road tax, no insurance, why is it the fault of the police?
That's their job to keep the likes of these idiots off the roads.
Very sad though for the loss of life, for the parents and for the police who had to scrap the bodies off the floor.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I nearly knocked down a kid on a
electric scooter..
Thety are a fuvking nuisance.
No road tax, no insurance, why is it the fault of the police?
That's their job to keep the likes of these idiots off the roads.
Very sad though for the loss of life, for the parents and for the police who had to scrap the bodies off the floor.

It's not the fault of the police but it is the job of the police to admit if they were following a vehicle

And they denied that initially

But now they seem to have been caught with their pants down

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I nearly knocked down a kid on a
electric scooter..
Thety are a fuvking nuisance.
No road tax, no insurance, why is it the fault of the police?
That's their job to keep the likes of these idiots off the roads.
Very sad though for the loss of life, for the parents and for the police who had to scrap the bodies off the floor.

It was a matter of time before there was a serious incident with an illegal electric bike/scooter, they have been an accident waiting to happen. I expect there will e a big clampdown on them and illegal unlicensed trial bikes and quad bikes.

[Feedback]

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The people of Ely have always been revolting

[PontBlue]

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It's not the fault of the police but it is the job of the police to admit if they were following a vehicle

And they denied that initially

But now they seem to have been caught with their pants down

Their statements both this morning and this evening have been carefully worded. For example they have stated they didn't have vehicles on Snowdon road at the time of the crash which could end up meaning they were just in a side street about to turn into Snowdon Road.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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The people of Ely have always been revolting

Nice line but a bit disparaging. My experience both growing up and later is that some of the best and worst of humanity live cheek by jowl with each other in some of these areas. It's a constant battle for those fantastic people who give a feck about their community to win over those that don't and convert a few along the way.

When my daughter was at Swansea University she had a year in Port Tennant. I remember passing one terraced house where there was a discarded settee in an overgrown front garden. Next door a woman was polishing the front window stones of her spotlessly clean home.