Riot in Ely

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What is society coming to when the police cannot even follow two lads breaking the law dangerously. :shrug:

The commissioner is not helping himself either but its a sad state of events when he cant come out and say yes we were chasing / following them because they were breaking the law.

Yeah if they are too worried to even chase the little chavvy scumbags on their E scooters or whatever they are on then we are truly effed.

[TWGL1]

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What is society coming to when the police cannot even follow two lads breaking the law dangerously. :shrug:

The commissioner is not helping himself either but its a sad state of events when he cant come out and say yes we were chasing / following them because they were breaking the law.

Slightly off topic, is there a problem in and around Merthyr with teenage gangs at the moment?

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Nonsense if he was a conservtive politician you would say he was lying the double standards are unbelievable.

You are being a complete arsehole

In the same way that the labour party were rightly criticised for labelling rishi sunack a child abuse sympathiser .....by loads of people in the labour party .....then if Alun Micheal is making a complete dogs dinner out of this then he deserves criticism and he's having plenty of it from people of all backgrounds

It's got nothing to do with his politics you silly fanny

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Slightly off topic, is there a problem in and around Merthyr with teenage gangs at the moment?

JR Hartley has shot them all and sent their relatives to Russian salt mines

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I don’t think officers are allowed to get involved in a pursuit, unless they are trained and then, it’s normally the traffic/road policing officers who have to get permission from a senior officer in the control room. The Met Police have adopted the policy of actually ramming motorbikes,scooters etc and the rate for this type of crime dropped dramatically. I think the Police and Alun Michael have shot themselves in the foot with the wrong information but the saddest thing, is two guys have lost their lives and I feel for their families and friends.

The deputy chief constable walked out of the press conference

They seem to be running around like the keystone cops

[SOXY BOY]

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Mark Dripford has made a statement now, he’ll get it sorted out !

[The Bloop]

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Statement from the Deputy CC including an updated timeline

https://fb.watch/kK1X9LR7LI/

[ToTaL ITK]

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Jesus. That's nuts.

I feel sorry for the owner of that red car.

of course you did..who gives a feck about the dead.

[J R Hartley]

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Slightly off topic, is there a problem in and around Merthyr with teenage gangs at the moment?

There was. It’s been nipped in the bud.

Called themselves the YADs - Young and Deadly. Just bullying little wankers picking on people in big gangs. They are about 13 to 15.

[TWGL1]

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There was. It’s been nipped in the bud.

Called themselves the YADs - Young and Deadly. Just bullying little wankers picking on people in big gangs. They are about 13 to 15.

Ok thanks for the update

[blue matt]

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I drove back to Barry from the UHW this evening and a fair police presence on cowbridge Rd West, pairs of police stood on a few corners, a few vans packed in the lay-bys / pull-ins

[Gofer Blue]

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Speeding and not wearing a helmet for a start.

Ebikes that can go faster than 15mph on the road have to follow the same rules as a motorbike or moped. They were going faster than 15mph hence they are no longer alive. They have paid the ultimate price.

I'm glad that someone has had the courage to say the bleedin' obvious. Here were two lads without protective headgear on an e-bike designed for one person, and going at quite a speed. The police are in an impossible situation here I think. If they are said to have been "chasing" these lads then it is argued they must have contributed to their deaths whereas if they merely "followed" them, then shouldn't we ask why didn't they try to stop them and thus prevent them killing themselves.

[blue matt]

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I'm glad that someone has had the courage to say the bleedin' obvious. Here were two lads without protective headgear on an e-bike designed for one person, and going at quite a speed. The police are in an impossible situation here I think. If they are said to have been "chasing" these lads then it is argued they must have contributed to their deaths whereas if they merely "followed" them, then shouldn't we ask why didn't they try to stop them and thus prevent them killing themselves.

Lets also be honest here, the people out Rioting will not need a huge excuse to launch bricks at the police and burn out cars

Of course the Police should have been following them, do we let these type of idiots blast around on 30mph ( plus ) E-bikes and just say " oh thats ok, we dont want to upset them " then they slam into a old dear coming back from the corner shop and kill her

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I'm glad that someone has had the courage to say the bleedin' obvious. Here were two lads without protective headgear on an e-bike designed for one person, and going at quite a speed. The police are in an impossible situation here I think. If they are said to have been "chasing" these lads then it is argued they must have contributed to their deaths whereas if they merely "followed" them, then shouldn't we ask why didn't they try to stop them and thus prevent them killing themselves.

The issue is why have they not been straight from the start

It's embarrassing they are like the chuckle brothers

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Lets also be honest here, the people out Rioting will not need a huge excuse to launch bricks at the police and burn out cars

Of course the Police should have been following them, do we let these type of idiots blast around on 30mph ( plus ) E-bikes and just say " oh thats ok, we dont want to upset them " then they slam into a old dear coming back from the corner shop and kill her

Being honest is what the police should have been doing from the start

We have had the police chief saying one thing , a chief superintendent saying something else ......once footage emerged of the van following them .....and today the assistant chief constable is in front of the press and cameras again ......admitting a van WAS following the boys

What's all that about and they must think some people came down in the last shower of rain ? !

The issue is not regarding the deaths of those two boys . Or criminal activity following the crash .

It's about the police reaction . It's all very well talking about the hard job the police have but nobody is forced to join and those at the top have got to engage properly and professionally with the public after incidents like this.

It's almost as if Cardiff City are running the show .