Riot in Ely

[J R Hartley]

Re: Riot in Ely

More bullshit

Alun Micheal said there was no police involvement BEFORE things kicked off

Wrong. How the **** would he make a statement about the riots BEFORE things kicked off?

Have an hour off the phone or computer Sludge, you are clearly tired and weary.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Wrong. How the **** would he make a statement about the riots BEFORE things kicked off?

Have an hour off the phone or computer Sludge, you are clearly tired and weary.

Nope , he said on live radio that the police had not been involved in the crash in the evening before the rioting began

[J R Hartley]

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Nope , he said on live radio that the police had not been involved in the crash in the evening before the rioting began

He said that next morning. Go to bed.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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He said that next morning. Go to bed.

I thought it was the other way round

Anyway they are still fibbers

[JamesWales]

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That says more about alun Micheal than it does about the labour party

And I am sure you would say the same if he was from another party

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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And I am sure you would say the same if he was from another party

I wouldn't have said anything at all if the police commissioner for Cardiff was a Conservative

It's got nothing to do with this

Direct any issue to the poster who brought this up

Alun Micheal should resign irrespective of his political stance

[Rjk]

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It’s ironic that Labour we’re against the introduction of Police Commissioners but it didn’t stop Alun Michael taking the job. Nice work for a 79 year old on just under £87,000 grand a year. To be honest, I don’t think he’s made any improvement as to how SWP operates.

that isn't ironic

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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[North Cardiff Blue]

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Bullshit . The only person all over the place on this is you . Were you a copper in a past life ? Or did you fail the fitness test ?

Sludge the boys were traveling towards the police, saw them did a u-turn, so the police traveled in the same direction for a short period of time, the police then dropped back and even moved in a different direction from them ending up half a mile away, how the hell is that a police chase?

The BBC verify team got it wrong using one camera at one time, and so did the people who went on a riot.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Wether their reaction was good , bad or nothing at all it's the fact they have from the start failed to state exactly the situation that people saw .....a police van following two kids on a scooter .....that has caused confusion , mistrust and given some the excuse to get involved in confrontation

Let's imagine some people on here were in Ely and saw the scooter being followed by a police van

The crash occurs and on social media people start saying what they saw .....kids being followed by a van

The police come out and say there wasn't a chase etc ......

To a lot of people that's going to feel that they are being challenged on what they saw

Chase , pursuit , trailed , shadowed

You say potato , I say potato etc etc

It really doesn't matter

The police failed to make sure everyone knew that the boys were being followed but when they crashed the police had withdrawn

This is all down to this simple matter . This missed opportunity has lit the fuse .

Sludge it was not a scooter it was a Surron electric bike/ motorbike https://surron.co.uk/pages/surron-bike-availability

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Sludge it was not a scooter it was a Surron electric bike/ motorbike https://surron.co.uk/pages/surron-bike-availability

You are going down the same alleyway

The impression given by the police .....and alun Micheal who works for them .....wax that the police were not involved and their contact with the boys has only come out now

They should have said they were not chasing but were following the boys straight away when asked about it

A day later and they were still saying their officers were not involved

That's for them to explain now

[The Bloop]

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You are going down the same alleyway

The impression given by the police .....and alun Micheal who works for them .....wax that the police were not involved and their contact with the boys has only come out now

They should have said they were not chasing but were following the boys straight away when asked about it

A day later and they were still saying their officers were not involved

That's for them to explain now

How were the officers involved in the crash when they were in a different street at the time?

[J R Hartley]

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How were the officers involved in the crash when they were in a different street at the time?

Hes all over the place. You wont get him to concede he is wrong though, he is exhausting.

He could give my missus a good run for her money in always being right when they are clearly wrong.

He will just keep on, and on, and on, and on sticking to his viewpoint even when its been proved wrong.

He needs serious help.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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How were the officers involved in the crash when they were in a different street at the time?

Police officers were involved in the incident of the boys being followed , even if only for a period

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Hes all over the place. You wont get him to concede he is wrong though, he is exhausting.

He could give my missus a good run for her money in always being right when they are clearly wrong.

He will just keep on, and on, and on, and on sticking to his viewpoint even when its been proved wrong.

He needs serious help.

I find that ironic given your liking for the sauce