Tory fraud.

[the other bob wilson]

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/06/06/government-fraud-quadruples-on-rishi-sunaks-watch-new-report-reveals/

I now await the obligatory “yes, but no, but the Labour party” posts from the usual suspects.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Tory fraud.

I see no difference between Labour and Conservative, and I wouldn't vote for any of them.

[Heathblue]

Re: Tory fraud.

I see no difference between Labour and Conservative, and I wouldn't vote for any of them.

I find it extremely odd that people can pick a difference.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Tory fraud.

I find it extremely odd that people can pick a difference.

The brainwashed can

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Tory fraud.

I see the smug and talented party are out in force tonight - why are you bothering with this thread when you’ve got so many of your own on here already to play with?

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Tory fraud.

I see the smug and talented party are out in force tonight - why are you bothering with this thread when you’ve got so many of your own on here already to play with?

They both answer to big business and they hate the little people, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. The old days of caring Labour are long gone.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Tory fraud.

They both answer to big business and they hate the little people, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. The old days of caring Labour are long gone.

So, can you provide us with a rough breakdown of the £21 billion lost due to fraud by a Labour Government if they’re both as bad as each other?

Must say, I’m surprised you are slumming it in a thread like this - domestic politics is usually beneath you.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Tory fraud.

Starmer is on record saying he prefers the WEF way of doing things and Westminster is an annoyance.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Tory fraud.

Starmer is on record saying he prefers the WEF way of doing things and Westminster is an annoyance.

A fairly typical Gluey reply with a question put to him ignored and a claim made as if it was a fact with nothing linked to back it up.

One of the reasons my opinion of Starmer is becoming less positive by the day and I'm less enthused about his party is that he'll promise all sorts of things one day and then act as if had not happened quite soon afterwards. Even if Starmer did say what you claim he did in the past, there's no guarantee that it represents his current thinking.

There was a very big poll published this week

https://pollingreport.uk/articles/why-labours-lead-probably-wont-translate-to-a-470-seat-landslide

it talks about Labour getting 470 seats in a best case scenario for them, but also remarks that support for Starmer, and his party, is "soft". It seems that people have had enough of the Tories, but they still aren't convinced about Labour - that's how I feel, but, as I feel millions of people in this country's lives will be made a bit better by the Conservatives thirteen years in power coming to an end, I'll vote Labour and would vote tactically for a different party if it meant a better chance of beating the Conservative candidate.

That's what I'm prepared to do to try to bring about a change of Government whereas you and the others in the small group on here who are always congratulating themselves for being cleverer than the rest of us will continue to carp from the sidelines about how they're all as bad as one and other and they]re all in thrall to big business anyway.

Yet, I read what you and the other members of the gifted set have to say about, say, global warming and it seems to me that your opinions are totally in favour of big business and a continuation of the policies which have caused ninety seven per cent, it's probably more now, of scientists to agree that global warming is a crisis that needs tackling urgently.

[life on mars]

Re: Tory fraud.

So, can you provide us with a rough breakdown of the £21 billion lost due to fraud by a Labour Government if they’re both as bad as each other?

Must say, I’m surprised you are slumming it in a thread like this - domestic politics is usually beneath you.

You appear to be blind to other examples of fraud or public waste of money .

[Rjk]

Re: Tory fraud.

You appear to be blind to other examples of fraud or public waste of money .

you're right, the Tories have wasted way more public money than that haven't they?

[life on mars]

Re: Tory fraud.

The brainwashed can

They are not blind they vote and think in hate and cannot see two sides to a story .

We have been voting for Blair Lite Tory government since Thatcher and we will continue that theme under Sir Kier therefore as socialist will vote for Sir Kier / Blair /Cameron party next year , we can only assume they do like conservativism ,just cant admit it due to their blinkered socialism , they certainly enjoy the less impoverished world Conservatism has provided for them in their later years , someone ounce said that ""socialism was the politics of envy "", that in my personal experience is sadly true .

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Tory fraud.

You appear to be blind to other examples of fraud or public waste of money .

No, it's fraud only that appeared in the thread title, so let's keep it to that - let's have your breakdown of the equivalent of £21 billion of Government fraud committed by a Labour Government then.

[life on mars]

Re: Tory fraud.

you're right, the Tories have wasted way more public money than that haven't they?

Well they will have , as money is at a greater value now , we have had an unprecedent pandemic cost , global finance collapse , war in Europe since they been in power ,worse than WW2 .

What's your view on the SNP and Welsh Assembly Blair's waste of public money, without those impacts ?

Oh and let us not forget the applagin abuse of the ALL MP's expense scandal story investigated and broke via the Tory so called rag the Daily Telegraph , not the Morning Star or Woke Guardian, BBC

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Tory fraud.

Well they will have , as money is at a greater value now , we have had an unprecedent pandemic cost , global finance collapse , war in Europe since they been in power ,worse than WW2 .

What's your view on the SNP and Welsh Assembly Blair's waste of public money, without those impacts ?

Oh and let us not forget the applagin abuse of the ALL MP's expense scandal story investigated and broke via the Tory so called rag the Daily Telegraph , not the Morning Star or Woke Guardian, BBC

Oh, he's in full tory mode today isn't he.