Tory fraud.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Tory fraud.

It's more that they get an ear full of abuse from some people. Same way some people don't feel they can be openly gay.

But still you go out canvassing! Not for the faint hearted but I guess it gives its own rewards!

[jon1959]

Re: Tory fraud.

It's more that they get an ear full of abuse from some people. Same way some people don't feel they can be openly gay.

Equating political preference with sexual orientation? Hmmm….

I don’t know any gay people who ‘choose’ to be gay. All the Tories I know chose to follow the blue rosette.

I suppose some people may have been born with a genetic Tory disorder? Interesting…..

[JamesWales]

Re: Tory fraud.

Equating political preference with sexual orientation? Hmmm….

I don’t know any gay people who ‘choose’ to be gay. All the Tories I know chose to follow the blue rosette.

I suppose some people may have been born with a genetic Tory disorder? Interesting…..

The issue isn't whether someone chooses something or not, although that does make abuse crueller, I agree. It is about whether it is acceptable to abuse people with different beliefs or not. And it isn't.

[Dorcus]

Re: Tory fraud.

The issue isn't whether someone chooses something or not, although that does make abuse crueller, I agree. It is about whether it is acceptable to abuse people with different beliefs or not. And it isn't.

If they're Tories yes, its an evil belief and must be exposed.

[JamesWales]

Re: Tory fraud.

If they're Tories yes, its an evil belief and must be exposed.

It's not though is it. Just like being gay isn't an evil belief that should be exposed, or being a Catholic isn't or being a social democrat isnt or anything else.

You shouldn't take pride in making people not be themselves around you. That's not a good thing. I think it's better to let people know that they can always come to me for support and would never be judged.

[Dorcus]

Re: Tory fraud.

It's not though is it. Just like being gay isn't an evil belief that should be exposed, or being a Catholic isn't or being a social democrat isnt or anything else.

You shouldn't take pride in making people not be themselves around you. That's not a good thing. I think it's better to let people know that they can always come to me for support and would never be judged.

Being gay certainly isn't an evil belief, Toryism is. Thank goodness for you it isn't illegal .....yet.

[jon1959]

Re: Tory fraud.

The issue isn't whether someone chooses something or not, although that does make abuse crueller, I agree. It is about whether it is acceptable to abuse people with different beliefs or not. And it isn't.

You are just repeating yourself.

So I will too.

Sexual orientation is not a ‘belief’. It is not a choice. There is no equivalence with a religious belief or a political conviction. You can change your belief system or voting habits, you cannot change your sexuality.

[JamesWales]

Re: Tory fraud.

You are just repeating yourself.

So I will too.

Sexual orientation is not a ‘belief’. It is not a choice. There is no equivalence with a religious belief or a political conviction. You can change your belief system or voting habits, you cannot change your sexuality.

Yes Jon, I understand that. But isn't the issue whether someone should or should not be abused or not. Doesn't the issue lie with the bigot/extremist/ illiberal, whatever it may be who makes someone fear expressing what they think or feel in front of them. There are plenty of things people choose or don't choose (and some like religion that fit somewhere in between). Doesn't mean it's okay to abuse them into silence.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Tory fraud.

It say a lot about a country when the electorate have feck all to say about how the country is going. it's almost like a dictatorship.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Tory fraud.

It say a lot about a country when the electorate have feck all to say about how the country is going. it's almost like a dictatorship.

It's only getting started and everything is pointing towards a biosecurity state where everything is going to be digitally controlled, including movement, money, consumption, inoculation & energy, etc. Some people are going to have face some hard conversations with their family and friends, including children and grandchildren, but here's the thing. The cowards amongst us will never admit that that they were warned and yet they still decided to call everything a conspiracy theory.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Tory fraud.

It's only getting started and everything is pointing towards a biosecurity state where everything is going to be digitally controlled, including movement, money, consumption, inoculation & energy, etc. Some people are going to have face some hard conversations with their family and friends, including children and grandchildren, but here's the thing. The cowards amongst us will never admit that that they were warned and yet they still decided to call everything a conspiracy theory.

Can I just say that the sight of a Brexit loving, fossil fuel addicted, climate change denier worrying about other people's family, friends, children and grandchildren almost brought a little tear to the corner of my eye!

[jon1959]

Re: Tory fraud.

It's only getting started and everything is pointing towards a biosecurity state where everything is going to be digitally controlled, including movement, money, consumption, inoculation & energy, etc. Some people are going to have face some hard conversations with their family and friends, including children and grandchildren, but here's the thing. The cowards amongst us will never admit that that they were warned and yet they still decided to call everything a conspiracy theory.

You, the most slippery, goal-post moving, deflector and fridge-dweller in the history of this Board are calling other people 'cowards'?

Wow!

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Tory fraud.

You, the most slippery, goal-post moving, deflector and fridge-dweller in the history of this Board are calling other people 'cowards'?

Wow!

“Fridge dweller”, like that one

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Tory fraud.

You, the most slippery, goal-post moving, deflector and fridge-dweller in the history of this Board are calling other people 'cowards'?

Wow!

When you are on a timeline it's easy to measure the progress of past and future events, and witnessing Cyril's conspiracy theories coming true is a good example of that.

[Hilts]

Re: Tory fraud.

It's more that they get an ear full of abuse from some people. Same way some people don't feel they can be openly gay.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant your comparing the persecution of gays to Tory voters.