Argy bargey

[Eric Cartman]

So another expensive government vanity project is falling to pieces. Would love to now how much the taxpayer is recieving back for this barge not being fit for human habitation? I'm going to guess nothing.

Anyone who isn't normally a critic of the government want to comment on this situation?

[TWGL1]

Re: Argy bargey

So another expensive government vanity project is falling to pieces. Would love to now how much the taxpayer is recieving back for this barge not being fit for human habitation? I'm going to guess nothing.

Anyone who isn't normally a critic of the government want to comment on this situation?

It pales into insignificance the amount of money which was wasted on Track & Trace (£12-£15bn) and there was hardly any mention of that in the main )

Some people probably still think it was a good idea

[superfeathers]

Re: Argy bargey

So another expensive government vanity project is falling to pieces. Would love to now how much the taxpayer is recieving back for this barge not being fit for human habitation? I'm going to guess nothing.

Anyone who isn't normally a critic of the government want to comment on this situation?

Well it doesn't seem to be going particularly well. If you combine that with a record number crossing in small boats yesterday (meaning the Rwanda policy isn't working either), you'd be forgiven for thinking that their approach to "stopping the boats" is maybe flawed somewhat.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

Well it doesn't seem to be going particularly well. If you combine that with a record number crossing in small boats yesterday (meaning the Rwanda policy isn't working either), you'd be forgiven for thinking that their approach to "stopping the boats" is maybe flawed somewhat.

Oh come on that's harsh

Just because every aspect of this tossing governments migration policy ........an area they PROMISED they would sort ......is completely in bits isn't that bad is it ?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Argy bargey

Yeah, but all of those lefty lawyers aren’t playing ball are they.

[superfeathers]

Re: Argy bargey

Oh come on that's harsh

Just because every aspect of this tossing governments migration policy ........an area they PROMISED they would sort ......is completely in bits isn't that bad is it ?

To be fair to them, they're probably doing a good job with everything else I expect

[pipster]

Re: Argy bargey

It's nearly as bad as over spending £900,000,000 of your annual budget - like they have done at the Senedd, this after having to give back 150,000,000 to Westminster as Mark Dipsh1t forgot to spend it.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

It's nearly as bad as over spending £900,000,000 of your annual budget - like they have done at the Senedd, this after having to give back 150,000,000 to Westminster as Mark Dipsh1t forgot to spend it.

Everybody listen

This pipster is definitely NOT a slimy tory

It's just coincidence that any criticism of his suited gang and he's all over things like a rash

Definitely NO tory

Ad infinitum

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

To be fair to them, they're probably doing a good job with everything else I expect

No they are fecking everything up to be fair

There's always one idiot singing their prasises though eh pipster

He's not a tory though

[Rjk]

Re: Argy bargey

No they are fecking everything up to be fair

There's always one idiot singing their prasises though eh pipster

He's not a tory though

everything they touch turns to shit and one of their mates usually makes a fortune

[JamesWales]

Re: Argy bargey

So another expensive government vanity project is falling to pieces. Would love to now how much the taxpayer is recieving back for this barge not being fit for human habitation? I'm going to guess nothing.

Anyone who isn't normally a critic of the government want to comment on this situation?

If the Home Office (for not everything is controlled by the cabinet except in the minds of people like yourself) hadn't acted on Legionella then you would be screaming blue murder.

Now they have and you proclaim it a disaster.

The only consistency here is that the people who offer zero solutions (comfortably off left-wingers far from the problem usually) will moan and moan and moan whatever happens.

So tell us, what are we supposed to be furious about today? That the home Office acted to keep people safe in response to a Legionella risk?

[The Bloop]

Re: Argy bargey

Well it doesn't seem to be going particularly well. If you combine that with a record number crossing in small boats yesterday (meaning the Rwanda policy isn't working either), you'd be forgiven for thinking that their approach to "stopping the boats" is maybe flawed somewhat.

Record numbers coming across on a certain day is usually weather related. It was the first relatively calm day for a while.

The need for barges, hotels and the illegal Rwanda policy is because of an inefficient application processing system. There's about 40-50k arriving by small boats annually but last December there were 160k waiting to be dealt with.
Stopping the boats is definitely flawed. Some parts aren't due to be implemented after the next election, but the political focus does seem out of proportion to the size, and a deflection from the actual issue.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Argy bargey

It's nearly as bad as over spending £900,000,000 of your annual budget - like they have done at the Senedd, this after having to give back 150,000,000 to Westminster as Mark Dipsh1t forgot to spend it.

Do you need a tutorial on how to make a thread?

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Argy bargey

That the home Office acted to keep people safe in response to a Legionella risk?

That is an interesting way to describe putting people on a boat that was subject to further testing before those results had been returned. It isn't much point having safety standards and testing unless you wait to hear the result before acting.

The above might actually be generous, some accounts suggest results came back earlier this week before migrants were ordered to board and before Jenrick's comments about it being 'perfectly safe'.

This governments response to the migration is cock up after cock up and yet here you are yet again to defend them.

So tell us, what are we supposed to be furious about today?

Well from what I can see, the contract with CTM is 1.6 billion to house 1500 migrants for 2 years in barges. It was awarded via the back door without competition or due process to a firm whose turnover is a fraction of the size of the contract, and within days of becoming operational, it has had to be shut down because it is unsafe. Hmmmm what could I possibly be furious about?! Do you have that little regard for taxpayer money that this seems okay to you?

So now we have a Rwanda policy costing hundreds of millions that can process hundreds of migrants and 3 barges costing 1.5 billion that can house 1500 migrants. What great ideas do you and the government have for the other 158,000?

Correct me if my maths is off but if you wanted to house 1500 people for 1.5 billion, you could have just built 1500 houses? Then when the migrants have been processed and possibly sent home if they don't meet asylum threshold, you have 1500 houses and a load of change. When the migrants have been processed, we are left with nothing except a hefty bill. That would be investing in infrastructure though, which is against government policy, far better to throw it at some ill-equipped private firm instead.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

If the Home Office (for not everything is controlled by the cabinet except in the minds of people like yourself) hadn't acted on Legionella then you would be screaming blue murder.

Now they have and you proclaim it a disaster.

The only consistency here is that the people who offer zero solutions (comfortably off left-wingers far from the problem usually) will moan and moan and moan whatever happens.

So tell us, what are we supposed to be furious about today? That the home Office acted to keep people safe in response to a Legionella risk?

And stooge number 2 who also isn't a raving tory turns up .....yet again to defend the complete incompetence of the government he says he doesn't support