Argy bargey

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Argy bargey

Sorry Sludge, what would another govt do? Eradicate Legionella?

Like I said, the consistency here is that whatever the govt do, people like you (nearly always far from being affected by any problem) will moan.

Do something about Legionella..you moan.

Don't do something about Legionella..you moan.

What you don't see is that in failing to properly engage to find any solution you are just setting yourself up for a failure in future.

It's so infuriating!

You know you aren't fooling anybody right?

The answer is simple, put the billions they have spent on the nothing projects like these barges and rwanda into building a resilient home office that can process claims quicker, this is what the public want, this is what is best for everybody involved.

You seem to be really sure that the majority crossing don't have a right to be here but at the same time you say the process can't be sped up? Schrödinger's migrant, simultaneously has no claim, and a claim that requires years to pick through.

Now, given that lawyers are just holding the government to the letter of the law, have a bash at explaining why that isnt the right approach without blaming everything on the bogie man of 'the left' or leftie lawyers.

Also when you directly quote somebody, ask them a question and they quote you back answering it, respond. It really shows your lack of character that so often people engage with you and once they have addressed/disproven what you have said, you scuttle off and start a conversation with somebody else.

You have spent two years wailing 'nobody else is giving a solution' whilst actively ignoring anybody who gives an alternative approach.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Argy bargey

I think we can all agree on one thing, that the shit show this government has overseen deserves a little bit more than a moan, whinge and moan.

It deserves a comprehensive criminal investigation but the establishment is woven so tightly in this country that this will never happen.

[Dorcus]

Re: Argy bargey

No I don't. The only party political points I have made in recent months is

1 / saying I may vote Labour in the next General Election

2 / saying I did vote Labour and Tory in the last council elections.

What I will do is criticise people like you who turn politics into some kind of Rangers/Celtic, Catholic/Protestant battle of good and evil.

Now I see where you've been going wrong James. Politics absolutely IS a battle of GOOD against EVIL. It's a form of Zoroastrianism. The protagonists are the selfish promoters of personal greed in one corner and those selfless souls who stand for compassion and justice in the other.

[+ the native hipster]

Re: Argy bargey

Now I see where you've been going wrong James. Politics absolutely IS a battle of GOOD against EVIL. It's a form of Zoroastrianism. The protagonists are the selfish promoters of personal greed in one corner and those selfless souls who stand for compassion and justice in the other.

sent from my all seeing eye phone

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

What the hell are you talking about? It’s not Sludges job or anyone else on this message road to find a solution to this, it’s your Tory government that has been in power for 13 years, it’s their job.

They couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.

Oh and while we are at it, that clown currently running the country is hiding away in Disney.

Test and trace - 37 billion

Rwanda policy - 120 million

Barges - 1.6 billion

Fraud waste - 26 billion

Sunak has overseen so much economic waste.

How can he still be in charge of the public purse after so much negligence?

Because people like JW vote for him

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

They arent evil though are they? I mean there is no justification for such language and you know it.

The party you support has vowed to continue using that barge so by definition they are evil too. And if you support them, then are you also evil?

Or perhaps no one is evil, they are just trying to solve a serious problem and you are just being a reactionary and hysterical, which tbf you are fantastic at

I think they are

Evil and ruthless

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

Sorry Sludge, what would another govt do? Eradicate Legionella?

Like I said, the consistency here is that whatever the govt do, people like you (nearly always far from being affected by any problem) will moan.

Do something about Legionella..you moan.

Don't do something about Legionella..you moan.

What you don't see is that in failing to properly engage to find any solution you are just setting yourself up for a failure in future.

It's so infuriating!

Far from being affected by any problem ?

So the privatisation of social care which has led to the current situation of people seriously suffering at home and in care homes ......two family members in my case .......brought in by the conservatives

That didn't affect me and I should be glad everything's up the swanny ?

What are you gassing about ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

The Tory boys are already bringing up what would improve if there was a change. Not having 3 PMs after an election and a married health Secretary not resigning after telling everyone to social distance while proceeding to stick his tongue down his colleagues throat would do for starters.

Lets face it anyone sticking up and voting for them needs ridiculing.

Lets kick em out.

Yep

[+ the native hipster]

Re: Argy bargey

Far from being affected by any problem ?

So the privatisation of social care which has led to the current situation of people seriously suffering at home and in care homes ......two family members in my case .......brought in by the conservatives

That didn't affect me and I should be glad everything's up the swanny ?

What are you gassing about ?

and middle class marxist will help by ..........?

[JamesWales]

Re: Argy bargey

You know you aren't fooling anybody right?

The answer is simple, put the billions they have spent on the nothing projects like these barges and rwanda into building a resilient home office that can process claims quicker, this is what the public want, this is what is best for everybody involved.

You seem to be really sure that the majority crossing don't have a right to be here but at the same time you say the process can't be sped up? Schrödinger's migrant, simultaneously has no claim, and a claim that requires years to pick through.

Now, given that lawyers are just holding the government to the letter of the law, have a bash at explaining why that isnt the right approach without blaming everything on the bogie man of 'the left' or leftie lawyers.

Also when you directly quote somebody, ask them a question and they quote you back answering it, respond. It really shows your lack of character that so often people engage with you and once they have addressed/disproven what you have said, you scuttle off and start a conversation with somebody else.

You have spent two years wailing 'nobody else is giving a solution' whilst actively ignoring anybody who gives an alternative approach.

Your naivity is quite somethng. You always present simple solutions to complex issues. You are every bit as bad as people you oppose

[JamesWales]

Re: Argy bargey

Far from being affected by any problem ?

So the privatisation of social care which has led to the current situation of people seriously suffering at home and in care homes ......two family members in my case .......brought in by the conservatives

That didn't affect me and I should be glad everything's up the swanny ?

What are you gassing about ?

What I'm saying is that you are a middle class leftie who screams and moans and offers no solutions and uses other people as pawns in issues that you will never, ever, be impacted by.

Of my very very close family I have two on housing benefit. Do you?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Argy bargey

What I'm saying is that you are a middle class leftie who screams and moans and offers no solutions and uses other people as pawns in issues that you will never, ever, be impacted by.

Of my very very close family I have two on housing benefit. Do you?

The fact you did not bother even acknowledging my message yesterday which attempted to take party politics out of the argument strongly suggests that you’re just interested in winding up others with your replies - that’s certainly the case in your most recent contributions to this thread.

[Swiss Peter]

Re: Argy bargey

Your naivity is quite somethng. You always present simple solutions to complex issues. You are every bit as bad as people you oppose

Extraordinary. You love to tell others that they misunderstand the complexity of this issue and others, and yet you are the one that parrots support for the cartoon policies that you have been spoon-fed. Whenever anybody engages on the real complexity - the need for internal reform of processes, and deeper and wider international cooperation, you simply disappear.

Like the man says - you fool nobody.

[Dorcus]

Re: Argy bargey

sent from my all seeing eye phone

I actually thought that was very witty: kudos 👍

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Argy bargey

What I'm saying is that you are a middle class leftie who screams and moans and offers no solutions and uses other people as pawns in issues that you will never, ever, be impacted by.

Of my very very close family I have two on housing benefit. Do you?

I have just told you that the conservative wrecking of social care directly affected me x 2

One doesn't have to be black to be opposed to racism or leaving off foodbanks to comment on poverty

It's Tories like you who think like that