40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[Gofer Blue]

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Now that the IDF are homing in on Rafah, could my thinking about a mass exodus of Palestinian people into Egypt to escape the fighting come true? In all seriousness, what would the Egyptians be able to do if thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands) stormed through the Rafah crossing in a single almighty crush?

[truthpaste]

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Now that the IDF are homing in on Rafah, could my thinking about a mass exodus of Palestinian people into Egypt to escape the fighting come true? In all seriousness, what would the Egyptians be able to do if thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands) stormed through the Rafah crossing in a single almighty crush?

I certainly hope it comes true, Arabs from the Red Sea right across the region are united in their agenda v Israel; it would be good to see just two of those nations organise something positive and provide safety for these people away from the counterfeit protection and guidance they've experienced from Hamas.

[jon1959]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/10/im-so-scared-please-come-hind-rajab-six-found-dead-in-gaza-12-days-after-cry-for-help

[stevo]

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This blind spot on Hamas from the Left generally is weird.

Why would you associate a call to stop the genocide in Gaza as a 'left' thing? Does that mean all pacifists lefties? I don't see any blind spot on Hamas either. I think we've all called them out as terrorists. It's just that we're also calling out the Israeli government on their response to those terrorist attacks.

Talking of pacifism, you'd expect your good Christian types to take that line. I find it strange when they don't and support genocide instead.

[jeepster]

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Why would you associate a call to stop the genocide in Gaza as a 'left' thing? Does that mean all pacifists lefties? I don't see any blind spot on Hamas either. I think we've all called them out as terrorists. It's just that we're also calling out the Israeli government on their response to those terrorist attacks.

Talking of pacifism, you'd expect your good Christian types to take that line. I find it strange when they don't and support genocide instead.

Well said

[Gofer Blue]

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I certainly hope it comes true, Arabs from the Red Sea right across the region are united in their agenda v Israel; it would be good to see just two of those nations organise something positive and provide safety for these people away from the counterfeit protection and guidance they've experienced from Hamas.

Is it just possible that such a scenario is exactly what the Israeli's are hoping for i.e. a mass evacuation of Gaza so that they can occupy the land for Israeli settlers?

[stevo]

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I think that’s what Truthpaste is hoping for.

[truthpaste]

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Is it just possible that such a scenario is exactly what the Israeli's are hoping for i.e. a mass evacuation of Gaza so that they can occupy the land for Israeli settlers?

That may be part of their vision, however guaranteeing the safety re attacks from that region would also be a major consideration. Are you familiar with the areas of that region Israel has occupied in the past and the fact that they have never once occupied all the land they were originally promised?
Also do you know who the Palestinians were/ are historically?

[stevo]

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Finally, Cameron raises concerns about Israel’s genocide.

[jon1959]

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That may be part of their vision, however guaranteeing the safety re attacks from that region would also be a major consideration. Are you familiar with the areas of that region Israel has occupied in the past and the fact that they have never once occupied all the land they were originally promised?
Also do you know who the Palestinians were/ are historically?

For the avoidance of doubt you are not speaking about a United Nations promise.

You are off again about a stone/bronze age myth about the invented pronouncement of a supernatural cloud dweller.

Which for you appears to justify the genocidal 'Amalek' fantasies of a corrupt, far right colonial-settler regime with a three generation history of ethnic cleansing, apartheid, torture, murder and imprisonment without trial. But if it's in the big book - all good with you!

[truthpaste]

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For the avoidance of doubt you are not speaking about a United Nations promise.

You are off again about a stone/bronze age myth about the invented pronouncement of a supernatural cloud dweller.

Which for you appears to justify the genocidal 'Amalek' fantasies of a corrupt, far right colonial-settler regime with a three generation history of ethnic cleansing, apartheid, torture, murder and imprisonment without trial. But if it's in the big book - all good with you!

I know, the book that you think is full of contradictions, but in reality just points to your own.
No wonder you want to dismiss it's claims including all it says re Israel.
Ultimately, that's only a temporary understanding.

[Gofer Blue]

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That may be part of their vision, however guaranteeing the safety re attacks from that region would also be a major consideration. Are you familiar with the areas of that region Israel has occupied in the past and the fact that they have never once occupied all the land they were originally promised?
Also do you know who the Palestinians were/ are historically?

I know that the whole area of that part of the Middle East has had different names and covered different areas since the earliest days of the Exodus/Canaan, then the 12 tribes classification, the kingdoms of David and Solomon, the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, and the situation in the time of Jesus. I have maps in the back of the NIV Bible I have, which I refer to.

As I understand it, the name Palestine originally derives from the name Philistia, the land of the Philistine people, who lived along the coast where the Gaza strip is today.

A good summary can be found here:

https://theconversation.com/the-history-of-israel-and-palestine-alternative-names-competing-claims-163156

[Gofer Blue]

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There is no way that Egypt will voluntarily take refugees from Gaza. These articles make interesting reading:

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/2/will-egypt-accept-palestinians-displaced-by-israels-war-on-gaza

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/why-egypt-wont-open-border-its-palestinian-neighbors

[stevo]

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I know, the book that you think is full of contradictions, but in reality just points to your own.
No wonder you want to dismiss it's claims including all it says re Israel.
Ultimately, that's only a temporary understanding.

But you’re referring to a book that also says the Earth was made in 7 days and that the whole human race came from Adam and Eve. Not to mention that the whole animal kingdom was saved from a flood and happily coexisted on a big boat.

[truthpaste]

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But you’re referring to a book that also says the Earth was made in 7 days and that the whole human race came from Adam and Eve. Not to mention that the whole animal kingdom was saved from a flood and happily coexisted on a big boat.

Well if you only refer to other people's opinion on it then you'll not even get the details right, it was completed in 6 days.
Modern science (now unfortunately a mix of verified and speculative claims) now agrees that all women orginate in the following fashion:-

Did all humans descend from one woman?
Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia
In human genetics, the Mitochondrial Eve (more technically known as the Mitochondrial-Most Recent Common Ancestor, shortened to mt-Eve or mt-MRCA) is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of all living humans.

One man would also be involved in such a process. Now tell me how that is a million miles from Genesis chapter 1?

Cultures all over the world have an account of one family surviving a catastrophic flood; so without the aid of social media, e-mail, cnn, sky news or national geo, how did they all end up with the same unusual story?