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  • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

    Originally posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    I know that the whole area of that part of the Middle East has had different names and covered different areas since the earliest days of the Exodus/Canaan, then the 12 tribes classification, the kingdoms of David and Solomon, the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, and the situation in the time of Jesus. I have maps in the back of the NIV Bible I have, which I refer to.

    As I understand it, the name Palestine originally derives from the name Philistia, the land of the Philistine people, who lived along the coast where the Gaza strip is today.

    A good summary can be found here:
    https://theconversation.com/the-hist...-claims-163156
    Thanks for the detail; in fact most people will have heard of David & Goliath, and not realise that this was the beginning of the history of Israel v Palestine. Israel today has no more than 20% of the land they were allocated, so even with Gaza, it would be way way short of it's actual title deed.

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    • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

      Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
      Thanks for the detail; in fact most people will have heard of David & Goliath, and not realise that this was the beginning of the history of Israel v Palestine. Israel today has no more than 20% of the land they were allocated, so even with Gaza, it would be way way short of it's actual title deed.
      ‘Actual title deed’!

      Chuffin’ hell.

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      • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

        How many gay people have Hamas , Hezbollah and Houthis killed and persecuted recently.

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        • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

          Originally posted by Doucas View Post
          5000 people murdered I've heard including children. Disgusting.
          Shame on both thier houses then, or we naive to think nice Hamas didn't know what would happen . What Hamas did to innocent peace loving Israeli festival goes was both barbaric and deliberate, sadly Palestinians won't give Hamas up or if they did Hamas would kill them .

          Hanas treat Palestinians as useful fodder, bit like Hilter and Putin have done sacrificed thier own for what??

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          • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

            Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
            Well if you only refer to other people's opinion on it then you'll not even get the details right, it was completed in 6 days.
            Modern science (now unfortunately a mix of verified and speculative claims) now agrees that all women orginate in the following fashion:-

            Did all humans descend from one woman?
            Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia
            In human genetics, the Mitochondrial Eve (more technically known as the Mitochondrial-Most Recent Common Ancestor, shortened to mt-Eve or mt-MRCA) is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of all living humans.

            One man would also be involved in such a process. Now tell me how that is a million miles from Genesis chapter 1?

            Cultures all over the world have an account of one family surviving a catastrophic flood; so without the aid of social media, e-mail, cnn, sky news or national geo, how did they all end up with the same unusual story?
            Of course all primitive societies had their creation myths. But many Eves and many Adams producing the first generation of recognisable humans over 2 million years ago - with no apples and no talking snakes - is certainly a million miles from Genesis.

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            • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

              Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
              Of course all primitive societies had their creation myths. But many Eves and many Adams producing the first generation of recognisable humans over 2 million years ago - with no apples and no talking snakes - is certainly a million miles from Genesis.
              jon, you need to be educated by a talking snake. Or a talking donkey.

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              • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                Of course all primitive societies had their creation myths. But many Eves and many Adams producing the first generation of recognisable humans over 2 million years ago - with no apples and no talking snakes - is certainly a million miles from Genesis.
                I see you avoided addressing the identical flood 'myth' found in remote parts of the world which were thousands of miles apart and a feature of each of these so called 'primitive societies' (??)

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                • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                  Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                  I see you avoided addressing the identical flood 'myth' found in remote parts of the world which were thousands of miles apart and a feature of each of these so called 'primitive societies' (??)
                  No more than you avoided addressing how every species of animal managed to coexist on a big boat without eating each other let alone Noah being eaten himself. And how did all the herbivores manage?

                  There’s plenty of evidence that a big flood happened. I don’t think anyone’s denying that but not to the levels described in the bible and the story of Noah’s ark.

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                  • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                    Originally posted by stevo View Post
                    No more than you avoided addressing how every species of animal managed to coexist on a big boat without eating each other let alone Noah being eaten himself. And how did all the herbivores manage?

                    There’s plenty of evidence that a big flood happened. I don’t think anyone’s denying that but not to the levels described in the bible and the story of Noah’s ark.
                    Don't underestimate Noah. He died at the ripe old age of 950.

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                    • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                      Originally posted by stevo View Post
                      No more than you avoided addressing how every species of animal managed to coexist on a big boat without eating each other let alone Noah being eaten himself. And how did all the herbivores manage?

                      There’s plenty of evidence that a big flood happened. I don’t think anyone’s denying that but not to the levels described in the bible and the story of Noah’s ark.
                      I see, Noah being eaten himself. Are all the animals in London Zoo harmless then?
                      That is a mystery?

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                      • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                        European differences on Gaza getting clearer - although whole of Europe (and USA) moving away from unconditional, uncritical support for Netanyahu and all his works!

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                        • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                          European differences on Gaza getting clearer - although whole of Europe (and USA) moving away from unconditional, uncritical support for Netanyahu and all his works!

                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...te-on-gaza-war
                          It's an interesting divide, and for those that are aware of the final end-game the countries due to be involved are all suitably placed within the equation.

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                          • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                            ‘Actual title deed’!

                            Chuffin’ hell.
                            I place you mention but ultimately remain in denial about.

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                            • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                              Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                              I place you mention but ultimately remain in denial about.
                              More than denial.


                              Omar-Khayyam-There-Is-No-Hell-But-Here.jpg

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                              • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                                truthpaste seems to not understand lingusitics. People use phrases that have been in currency for centuries and without necessarily buying into the origins. He probably thinks that every 'omg' typed on the internet reflects religiosity - and every reference to playing the devil's advocate being a recognition of Satan's powers.

                                I wonder if he uses the words Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.....

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