40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[truthpaste]

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Isn't it obvious to you?

Your view, no. Currently it is totally illogical?

[jon1959]

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But in the here and now you have not explained why humans have a sense of justice if we are NOT made to ideally reflect and practice the values and standards of our Creator?

Isn't it obvious to you?

Your view, no. Currently it is totally illogical?

Illogical?

Brilliant!

[Dorcus]

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Illogical?

Brilliant!

Confucius say "When you are backed into a wall, shout for help"

[Rjk]

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https://x.com/steviemcglinchy/status/1848768251750212062?t=x8Y78wlejXl4lUanvGGt-w&s=19

clip from sky news of an Israeli extremist - staggering stuff

[jon1959]

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https://x.com/steviemcglinchy/status...UanvGGt-w&s=19

clip from sky news of an Israeli extremist - staggering stuff

There are a lot of extremists with those views - a growing % in Israel, in the USA (though more obviously from Christian Zionists than from the Jewish community that is slowly breaking from slavish support for Israel and its state ideology) and some in Europe too.

'It is our land' (from the supposed Old Testament real estate deal between their god and his 'chosen people') is the position of the UK Chief Rabbi, and it is the view of one particular poster active in this thread.

[truthpaste]

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Confucius say "When you are backed into a wall, shout for help"

No help required, as you inhabit a universe with an economy (reality) which exists purely by accident and assumes the model is the survival of the fittest. Then within that framework you want to have morality, without any understanding (within your chosen ceiling which is science) as to why you want it as part of your reality?

You have as much hope of exlaining that part of life (from your own world view) as you do the 7 day week.

[Dorcus]

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No help required, as you inhabit a universe with an economy (reality) which exists purely by accident and assumes the model is the survival of the fittest. Then within that framework you want to have morality, without any understanding (within your chosen ceiling which is science) as to why you want it as part of your reality?

You have as much hope of exlaining that part of life (from your own world view) as you do the 7 day week.

Honestly you just post gibberish! Why not try writing in English rather than 1st Century Aramaic?

[Dorcus]

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There are a lot of extremists with those views - a growing % in Israel, in the USA (though more obviously from Christian Zionists than from the Jewish community that is slowly breaking from slavish support for Israel and its state ideology) and some in Europe too.

'It is our land' (from the supposed Old Testament real estate deal between their god and his 'chosen people') is the position of the UK Chief Rabbi, and it is the view of one particular poster active in this thread.

"It is our land" is it bollocks!!! There are some seriously evil excuses for human sapiens abroad.

[truthpaste]

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Honestly you just post gibberish! Why not try writing in English rather than 1st Century Aramaic?

No problem, if you think evolution is the reason we are here, then why as advanced animals should we even care about anything including right & wrong except survival of the fittest?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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No problem, if you think evolution is the reason we are here, then why as advanced animals should we even care about anything including right & wrong except survival of the fittest?

Are you suggesting that non-Christians do not have morals and/or are incapable of coming up with any? As the majority of the population of the world are not of your ilk (and never has been) that sounds rather ridiculous.

[Dorcus]

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No problem, if you think evolution is the reason we are here, then why as advanced animals should we even care about anything including right & wrong except survival of the fittest?

An obvious answer might be intelligence. The power of the human mind is remarkable you know!

[truthpaste]

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An obvious answer might be intelligence. The power of the human mind is remarkable you know!

An answer, yes. Obvious, No.
Hitler and others with brilliant minds and influence over others have no shortage of intelligence, but would be said to have less morallity than your average Cobra.

[Dorcus]

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An answer, yes. Obvious, No.
Hitler and others with brilliant minds and influence over others have no shortage of intelligence, but would be said to have less morallity than your average Cobra.

I'm not sure mortality is relevant. It has no bearing upon love, compassion or insight. By the way I'm not sure I'd ascribe a "brilliant mind" to Hitler. There are many other adjectives I'd prefer.

[truthpaste]

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I'm not sure mortality is relevant. It has no bearing upon love, compassion or insight. By the way I'm not sure I'd ascribe a "brilliant mind" to Hitler. There are many other adjectives I'd prefer.

Others who have looked into this are in no doubt: "Am I wrong for thinking Hitler was a brilliant person who knew what he was doing ?
His estimated IQ is 140. I've looked over "Mein Kampf", his ability to reason and express himself demonstrates intelligence and considering his lack of formal education is impressive.

The people around him who did take an IQ test had IQs of 140 or better.

So he could be called brilliant. He made many mistakes many resulting from his damaged personality. He was distrustful and did not take advise from others but rather depended solely on his own deductions and intuition".

[Dorcus]

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Others who have looked into this are in no doubt: "Am I wrong for thinking Hitler was a brilliant person who knew what he was doing ?
His estimated IQ is 140. I've looked over "Mein Kampf", his ability to reason and express himself demonstrates intelligence and considering his lack of formal education is impressive.

The people around him who did take an IQ test had IQs of 140 or better.

So he could be called brilliant. He made many mistakes many resulting from his damaged personality. He was distrustful and did not take advise from others but rather depended solely on his own deductions and intuition".

His "estimated' IQ! You can't estimate an IQ without a properly conducted test. People have tried this many times before and failed badly.

Hitler had obvious special qualities: his oration being paramount. He was also likely a strong character with superbly honed political nous. However, he also had failings, as his Generals would have arrested to. His character flaws were spectacular, especially his twisted ethical outlook. No one with intellect needs any God to tell them Hitler was a bad 'un.