20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

[Canton Kev]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

At least the people taking part have the courage of their convictions, unlike people like you who just sit on the sidelines carping. I would think that the fact that 465000 people (or utter losers in your world) have signed the petition might have also given you a clue that you might be in a severe minority with your opinion.

The last time 465,000 people were considered a majority in Wales was about 200 years ago

[Divine Wright]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

The world is falling apart and these people are protesting a 20mph speed limit. I despair.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

The world is falling apart and these people are protesting a 20mph speed limit. I despair.

Absolute fek wits

[Dave Blue]

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The world is falling apart and these people are protesting a 20mph speed limit. I despair.

Nailed it there. Morons.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Surely that is highly dangerous ffs why didn't they protest when it was announced in the manifesto

What a daft comment. Who reads manifestos other than political journalists? You certainly didn't.

[superfeathers]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Been trying to think of another protest where the protestors do what they’re protesting about

Hope it’s not the start of something

Just stop oil idling 4x4s outside schools
NSPCC drowning kids in Barry island
RSPCA stringing up hamsters in Trafalgar Square

It’d be comical if they didn’t have potential to cause a pile up of people just going about their daily lives

[BLUETIT]

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I only really get to drive, or even be in a car that isn’t a taxi, when I’m back in Wales. Last time doing so was not too soon after the 20mph change came in. Can only speak from my limited and personal experience of course but the effect felt pretty limited for me, mainly having to be a bit slower and a bit more considerate in built up areas.

The protest does have the feel of something almost performance art or Monty Python-esque about it. Safety concerns aside, as long as it’s peaceful civil disobedience then protest away I guess.

How fast/slow, can tractors go, as there might be a few on the motorway on Saturday ?

[Nobody's Rep]

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What a daft comment. Who reads manifestos other than political journalists? You certainly didn't.

How is that a daft comment and how do you know I didn't read them

I'm not on social media such as Twitter etc so where I am going to get my information from in who to vote for

Also part of my job relies on me being up to date on political intentions

[the other bob wilson]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Been trying to think of another protest where the protestors do what they’re protesting about

Hope it’s not the start of something

Just stop oil idling 4x4s outside schools
NSPCC drowning kids in Barry island
RSPCA stringing up hamsters in Trafalgar Square

It’d be comical if they didn’t have potential to cause a pile up of people just going about their daily lives

[JamesWales]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

It's an odd protest but unless I'm mistaken the last one didnt actually slow people down (unlike what they are protesting about) or stop people going about their lives (unlike what Just Stop Oil, who others have mentioned do). So it doesn't seem worth people getting too upset about.

What do the police say about it?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Have been hoping to able to do it for years, and got the train today to try out the commute, Alarm at 05.30 06.20 train from High Level, in the office having a cuppa by 07.45, 16.55 train home having tea at 18.10, when its raining and windy I'll use the car, other than that, will be the choo choo, no M4, No Corryton roundabout, No. merge in pal £9.0 sovs a day but it does cost me 3 sovs a day to park when taking car so little bit more expensive but not deal breaking. and stress free if the fkin drivers don't decide to strike again

The trains are great, but they are on strike half the time, poor train drivers how are they supposed to manage on £60K a year!

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I hope Drakeford makes a law that The M4 speed limit is 20mph-Just for this weekend. They'll all be going 70 if he does that.

90mph

[The Bloop]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Been trying to think of another protest where the protestors do what they’re protesting about

Hope it’s not the start of something

Just stop oil idling 4x4s outside schools
NSPCC drowning kids in Barry island
RSPCA stringing up hamsters in Trafalgar Square

It’d be comical if they didn’t have potential to cause a pile up of people just going about their daily lives

A task on The Apprentice a few years ago was to create a new celebration day in the calendar and a greetings card to go with it.
One team came up with International Environment Day. Great idea until Alan Sugar pointed out that thousands of trees would need chopping down to make all the greetings cards.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I imagine if Cathedral road is busy, it'll save buses much more than 30 seconds.

Some will disagree here, but there's no way the rate of road building can match the increasing number of cars on the road, meaning roads get clogged up. There has to be other options instead of just building more roads, particuarly where it's impossible to do so.

People moan that public transport isn't good enough to leave the car at home, yet those same people moan when public transport priority measures are implemented.

It's not that the existing roads couldn't cope they could, they've just halved the lanes and handed them over to buses that are useless and too infrequent and cycle lanes that are empty because it P!sses down every day. It's a dictatorship, you dopey welsh will do as I say.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Living in England I don't have much of a dog in this fight but it it quite amusing watching people concurrently whinging about a speed limit restriction that slows twenty people in cars by 30 seconds then about 20 or so people on a bus going 30 seconds quicker down a similar street!

That's not right is it, there are a thousand cars to every bus, and they both get one lane each, so obviously the cars are stuck in traffic and the bus lanes are empty.