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  • #61
    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

    Originally posted by Swiss Peter View Post
    There is also a theory of anti-gravity. I bought my wife a book on it for Christmas. She hasn't been able to put it down.
    My first laugh today

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    • #62
      Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

      Originally posted by Swiss Peter View Post
      There is also a theory of anti-gravity. I bought my wife a book on it for Christmas. She hasn't been able to put it down.
      I find the concept of gravity quite attractive.

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      • #63
        Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

        Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
        I find the concept of gravity quite attractive.
        I'm not falling for any gravity puns again.

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        • #64
          Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
          I assume from your lack of a reply on your use of the word 'evolve' was simply a nod to your unconfirmed world view?

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          • #65
            Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

            Originally posted by lardy View Post
            You can look into what 'theory' means in the context of a scientific theory. It's not what you think, as Jon is completely correct to use that word.

            For example, there is a law of gravity, and I'm sure we'd all agree that gravity is real. But there's also a theory of gravity, which explains why it happens. Laws don't change (as gravity is not suddenly going to start acting differently) but theories do get revised as we have more evidence.
            I wasn't querying his use of the word theory, although evolution while considered a theory isn't technically a theory (as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment) at all, it is more accurately an 'idea' - one that has yet to gain any verified traction. The reason it is so popular is because the alternative is for most people, unthinkable.

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            • #66
              Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

              Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
              I assume from your lack of a reply on your use of the word 'evolve' was simply a nod to your unconfirmed world view?
              What?

              I used the word 'evolved' because that was the word I wanted to use.

              I didn't reply to your post because it was kinder not to. You were tying yourself into a semantic and philosophical knot again.

              I have a world view, thanks. I can confirm it is not an unconfirmed world view.

              OK?

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              • #67
                Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                I wasn't querying his use of the word theory, although evolution while considered a theory isn't technically a theory (as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment) at all, it is more accurately an 'idea' - one that has yet to gain any verified traction. The reason it is so popular is because the alternative is for most people, unthinkable.

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                • #68
                  Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                  Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                  What?

                  I used the word 'evolved' because that was the word I wanted to use.

                  I didn't reply to your post because it was kinder not to. You were tying yourself into a semantic and philosophical knot again.

                  I have a world view, thanks. I can confirm it is not an unconfirmed world view.

                  OK?
                  Not really, I watch documentaries and many other types of programmes where 'evolution' is used instead of development, or 'evolve' is used instead of grow (for example), and the misuse of the word is always laughable. They seem to think that saying their word view even via poor english will somehow make it true, in reality that WV hasn't been confirmed and never will be.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                    The above should read "World View" (not word view)

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                    • #70
                      Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                      Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                      The above should read "World View" (not word view)
                      It makes no difference - still gibberish!

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                      • #71
                        Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                        Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                        I wasn't querying his use of the word theory, although evolution while considered a theory isn't technically a theory (as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment) at all, it is more accurately an 'idea' - one that has yet to gain any verified traction. The reason it is so popular is because the alternative is for most people, unthinkable.
                        "as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment"

                        Can you explain a bit more about what you mean here, please?

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                        • #72
                          Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                          Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
                          Do you think there is a correlation between solar eclipses and earthquakes?
                          Just to help you out.

                          Solar eclipses in the 21st century:


                          Earthquakes in the 21st century:

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                          • #73
                            Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                            Originally posted by lardy View Post
                            "as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment"

                            Can you explain a bit more about what you mean here, please?
                            Each formula contained in this ARTICLE has been discovered because gravity CAN be demonstrated, because it has a foundation in reality and fact.

                            Most people would be familiar with G-force, the article includes "In the first equation above, g is referred to as the acceleration of gravity. Its value is 9.8 m/s2 on Earth. That is to say, the acceleration of gravity on the surface of the earth at sea level is 9.8 m/s2. When discussing the acceleration of gravity, it was mentioned that the value of g is dependent upon location".

                            In contrast, evolution (although also called a theory) cannot be demonstrated, or proven. Therefore in scientific terms it can only be classed as an idea, or concept. What CAN be seen is speciation which is a variety within cats, dogs etc etc Unfortunately the idea of evolution requires a number of other things, such as one species becoming another, and crucially a solution to the biggest problem, a lack of generational information. And even if you solve that problem, the required organisation of that new information.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                              Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                              Each formula contained in this ARTICLE has been discovered because gravity CAN be demonstrated, because it has a foundation in reality and fact.

                              Most people would be familiar with G-force, the article includes "In the first equation above, g is referred to as the acceleration of gravity. Its value is 9.8 m/s2 on Earth. That is to say, the acceleration of gravity on the surface of the earth at sea level is 9.8 m/s2. When discussing the acceleration of gravity, it was mentioned that the value of g is dependent upon location".

                              In contrast, evolution (although also called a theory) cannot be demonstrated, or proven. Therefore in scientific terms it can only be classed as an idea, or concept. What CAN be seen is speciation which is a variety within cats, dogs etc etc Unfortunately the idea of evolution requires a number of other things, such as one species becoming another, and crucially a solution to the biggest problem, a lack of generational information. And even if you solve that problem, the required organisation of that new information.
                              You're talking about the law of gravity, not the theory.

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                              • #75
                                Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

                                Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                                Each formula contained in this ARTICLE has been discovered because gravity CAN be demonstrated, because it has a foundation in reality and fact.

                                In contrast, evolution (although also called a theory) cannot be demonstrated, or proven. Therefore in scientific terms it can only be classed as an idea, or concept.
                                Sounds to me like you could replace “evolution” with “god” and that sentence would still be accurate. Hmmm

                                Unless there’s a god formula I missed in high school.

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