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  • #46
    Re: Hitler.

    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Why doesn't this great all powerful fella called God you keep going on about use his power to improve the condition of the human heart and make it less depraved?
    He did, your clues are the key historical events now remembered each Christmas and Easter.
    And didn't Paul become far, far less depraved?
    Today people have similar accounts of transformation after chosing to follow Christ.

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    • #47
      Re: Hitler.

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      Why doesn't this great all powerful fella called God you keep going on about use his power to improve the condition of the human heart and make it less depraved ?

      Of course you will come up with the usual it's up to us humans etc etc .....the usual Christian get out clause when they are challenged on the power .....or lack of .....of the big man

      God does nothing about the depravity and evil nature of humans of course because God ....who you lot say created humans


      .....doesn't exist


      If Stalin had been a nice guy and wiped out Christianity by educating people how stupid it all is instead of by mass murder he would have been more popular
      Bit of an anti religious rant there Sludge.

      Will you be doing a mohammed drawing class soon?

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      • #48
        Re: Hitler.

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        Bit of an anti religious rant there Sludge.

        Will you be doing a mohammed drawing class soon?
        All religion is bollocks

        All of it

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        • #49
          Re: Hitler.

          Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
          He did, your clues are the key historical events now remembered each Christmas and Easter.
          And didn't Paul become far, far less depraved?
          Today people have similar accounts of transformation after chosing to follow Christ.
          Christmas all nonsense based on pagan winter festivals

          Lots of lots of people live peaceful , kind lives without all that following christ rubbish

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          • #50
            Re: Hitler.

            Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
            You produce hundreds of words per annum talking about an almighty being that (in your economy) isn't actually there!
            Can you spot a logical flaw in such a mix?
            There has been so much verbal rubbish talked about a myth by its deluded followers that its more than OK for others to comment on its stupidity

            The churches and other worship places are free to practise so it's more than reasonable for the rest of society to discuss its validity

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            • #51
              Re: Hitler.

              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
              All religion is bollocks

              All of it
              Look, I agree, but if it brings folk happiness then let them be. It’s when they try and spout the nonsense to non believer’s endlessly I have an issue. You like football, but I don’t rant on to my wife about it all the time, she just glazes over and agrees even though I know she hasn’t a clue what I said…..if truthpaste is on, the thread is over.

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              • #52
                Re: Hitler.

                Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                Bit of an anti religious rant there Sludge.

                Will you be doing a mohammed drawing class soon?
                He wouldn't dare.

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                • #53
                  Re: Hitler.

                  Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
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                  Such thinking is an ideology. Such “non-belief” has devastating consequences. Not believing in God is like not believing in seat belts. Or better yet: it’s like not believing in the police, the judiciary, medicine or fire stations. You don’t have to believe in them, but living in a world without them has consequences:-
                  Interestingly Richard Dawkins, the atheists' Messiah, has recently declared himself to be a "cultural Christian".

                  When the New Atheism thing was new, I wrote a piece saying that the people who supported it were pretentious and cowardly. They pretended to know what religion is, and said that it caused great harm. I said this was ‘intellectual cowardice’. The intellectual coward is one who chooses simplicity over complexity and difficulty. One


                  What a delightful irony coming from the guy who wants to destroy Christianity! As TP says, you don't have to believe in Christianity but living in a world entirely without it has consequences. I'm sure Sludge can't wait for that day but good luck is all I can say, as I probably won't be around to say I told you so - I'll be in a better place!

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                  • #54
                    Re: Hitler.

                    Originally posted by Gofer Blue View Post
                    Interestingly Richard Dawkins, the atheists' Messiah, has recently declared himself to be a "cultural Christian".

                    When the New Atheism thing was new, I wrote a piece saying that the people who supported it were pretentious and cowardly. They pretended to know what religion is, and said that it caused great harm. I said this was ‘intellectual cowardice’. The intellectual coward is one who chooses simplicity over complexity and difficulty. One


                    What a delightful irony coming from the guy who wants to destroy Christianity! As TP says, you don't have to believe in Christianity but living in a world entirely without it has consequences. I'm sure Sludge can't wait for that day but good luck is all I can say, as I probably won't be around to say I told you so - I'll be in a better place!
                    You hope but I have as much chance of some after life as you

                    there is no evidence to back your belief , nobody has contacted us in 2000 years to tell us what a great place heaven is

                    I would rather listen to black sabbath than waste time hoping

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                    • #55
                      Re: Hitler.

                      Originally posted by Gofer Blue View Post
                      He wouldn't dare.
                      All religion is bollocks

                      I hope that's clear

                      Have you forgotten about the crusades ?

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                      • #56
                        Re: Hitler.

                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        You hope but I have as much chance of some after life as you

                        there is no evidence to back your belief , nobody has contacted us in 2000 years to tell us what a great place heaven is

                        I would rather listen to black sabbath than waste time hoping
                        You sure do. You can spend eternity in another place with like-minded individuals such as yourself - lovely!

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                        • #57
                          Re: Hitler.

                          Originally posted by Gofer Blue View Post
                          You sure do. You can spend eternity in another place with like-minded individuals such as yourself - lovely!
                          Very true, people will get the choice they have made.

                          Not just a Black Sabbath, but a pitch black eternity...

                          ..in 'outer darkness'

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                          • #58
                            Re: Hitler.

                            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post

                            Have you forgotten about the crusades ?
                            Not for one minute, but a half truth is never a fact, see this article on THE CRUSADES.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Hitler.

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              All religion is bollocks

                              I hope that's clear

                              Have you forgotten about the crusades ?
                              Oh, yes the Crusades. I know I get a lot of stick on here for being a Christian but whilst I am indeed an old timer, I am not that old that I can remember the Crusades! Joking aside, clearly that was a shameful period in history (and there are other examples of course) but can I ask once again, were those who took part in such events "Christians", supposedly acting in defence of Christ and Christianity?

                              By their fruits you shall know them. Say no more.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Hitler.

                                Originally posted by Gofer Blue View Post
                                Oh, yes the Crusades. I know I get a lot of stick on here for being a Christian but whilst I am indeed an old timer, I am not that old that I can remember the Crusades! Joking aside, clearly that was a shameful period in history (and there are other examples of course) but can I ask once again, were those who took part in such events "Christians", supposedly acting in defence of Christ and Christianity?

                                By their fruits you shall know them. Say no more.
                                I don't follow the religious discussions much, but I would like to think you don't get stick on here merely for being a Christian?

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