Hitler.

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Re: Hitler.

There you go again, making claims you can't possibly prove.

So as you don't have any proof that Christ's body is still on earth, are you willing to consider the evidence from history found OUTSIDE the Bible?

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

Re: Hitler.

So as you don't have any proof that Christ's body is still on earth, are you willing to consider the evidence from history found OUTSIDE the Bible?

I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm pointing out that you aren't able to prove the things you believe.

[truthpaste]

Re: Hitler.

I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm pointing out that you aren't able to prove the things you believe.

Correction, you are hoping there is no proof to prove your position invalid.
Otherwise if you were confident your position was watertight, any further information would only verify your position and prove me wrong.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

Re: Hitler.

Correction, you are hoping there is no proof to prove your position invalid.
Otherwise if you were confident your position was watertight, any further information would only verify your position and prove me wrong.

I'm really not. I don't have any interest in the subject and no particular knowledge of it. I've simply pointed out that every "fact" that you've offered is nothing of the sort. For example, the "proof" you offered for the resurrection adds up to "well what else could have happened?". That isn't proof.
Anyway I'm off kayaking on the Wye. Enjoy your day and your faith.

[truthpaste]

Re: Hitler.

I'm really not. I don't have any interest in the subject and no particular knowledge of it. I've simply pointed out that every "fact" that you've offered is nothing of the sort. For example, the "proof" you offered for the resurrection adds up to "well what else could have happened?". That isn't proof.
Anyway I'm off kayaking on the Wye. Enjoy your day and your faith.

Having watched Robin Friday, someone who didn't back down from any challenge, I think you may have been sold a fake spirit!
Take care on the Wye.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Hitler.

Which god are you thanking?

One of the inca, aborigine or native American Indian gods that they talked about thousands of years before the one you worship was invented

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Hitler.

Correction, you are hoping there is no proof to prove your position invalid.
Otherwise if you were confident your position was watertight, any further information would only verify your position and prove me wrong.

No he's not

He wants YOU to provide proof and facts

His position is one of nuance , don't know , not sure , please provide evidence

That's most people's view but eventually your lot grind us and wear us down and we turn into full on satanists

[truthpaste]

Re: Hitler.

One of the inca, aborigine or native American Indian gods that they talked about thousands of years before the one you worship was invented

So what makes their gods real and the God of the Bible an invention?

[truthpaste]

Re: Hitler.

No he's not

He wants YOU to provide proof and facts

His position is one of nuance , don't know , not sure , please provide evidence

That's most people's view but eventually your lot grind us and wear us down and we turn into full on satanists

And to save you the membership hassle, there's no need to enlist as a satanist to aid his cause. Simply keep Jesus Christ on your lips when you are surprised or angry and people will know exactly who you serve.

[Rjk]

Re: Hitler.

Ok, as we've already had evidence above (even from individuals that share your chosen position of atheism) that the Biblical record of Jesus is accurate, including the resurrection, then let's dive into the research of another *atheist in the following docu/ movie > HERE

I understand you'll never want to watch the entire investigation, so let's cut to the chase, the key investigation into the resurrection itself, if you go to this point in the video >> 1:22:55 (1 hour 22 minutes and 55 seconds) which includes evidence from a secular scientific journal, then I would appreciate your comments on what was presented to the *atheist.

*An atheist at the time of this investigation.

Personally I think it is likely that there was a historical person that we now know as Jesus, do I believe any of the magic stuff - of course not. Most that was added at a later date by people who spotted the opportunity to grow a religion out of the death of a local figure.

Th early church was practically defined by martyrdom.

One theory I find interesting is whether Jesus Chris and Jesus Barrabas were actually the same person.

Barrabas was a leader of insurrection against the Roman occupation of the land - a charismatic leader who is striving to free his people but was betrayed and executed - thart seems far more lkely to be the kind of person that would generate a large number of supporters to forment a religion than a carpenter and lay preacher - but the resistance against the Romans was violent - and when they were undergoing the process to repaint the head of their cult as the messiah they couldn't have him murdering people so it was altered.
Just an interesting theory.

[truthpaste]

Re: Hitler.

Personally I think it is likely that there was a historical person that we now know as Jesus, do I believe any of the magic stuff - of course not. Most that was added at a later date by people who spotted the opportunity to grow a religion out of the death of a local figure.

Th early church was practically defined by martyrdom.

One theory I find interesting is whether Jesus Chris and Jesus Barrabas were actually the same person.

Barrabas was a leader of insurrection against the Roman occupation of the land - a charismatic leader who is striving to free his people but was betrayed and executed - thart seems far more lkely to be the kind of person that would generate a large number of supporters to forment a religion than a carpenter and lay preacher - but the resistance against the Romans was violent - and when they were undergoing the process to repaint the head of their cult as the messiah they couldn't have him murdering people so it was altered.
Just an interesting theory.

The 'magic stuff' - the Miracles.

1. At what point and why which means did Jesus try and free His People, the Jews?
2. It's interesting that people get deeply interested in many theories that have no historical support but ignore all the evidence as to who Jesus actually is!
3. Should Jesus be Almighy God in human form to fulfill His *Mission, then the Miracles are childsplay when you look at the scope and wonder of the entire Universe.
4. Given your above assessment of the Romans, the Jews and Jesus Himself, what do YOU think His key *Mission was, and what leads you to your conclusion?

[truthpaste]

Re: Hitler.

The 'magic stuff' - the Miracles.

1. At what point and why which means did Jesus try and free His People, the Jews?

Correction: At what point and by which means did Jesus try and free His People, the Jews?

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Re: Hitler.

So what makes their gods real and the God of the Bible an invention?

They don't go on and on about him ....or her ... like you lot do

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Hitler.

And to save you the membership hassle, there's no need to enlist as a satanist to aid his cause. Simply keep Jesus Christ on your lips when you are surprised or angry and people will know exactly who you serve.

God if he's a good bloke will let me in wether I swear or not

I would hope if he exists he won't let the clean mouthed priest, God loving and all that in that spends too much time with young kids

[truthpaste]

Re: Hitler.

God if he's a good bloke will let me in wether I swear or not

I would hope if he exists he won't let the clean mouthed priest, God loving and all that in that spends too much time with young kids

I'll just assume you fall under the influence of strong beverages from 7.30pm.
I wasn't talking about swearing, but taking the Name of God in vain.
A child of God never does that.