vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

[Jordi Culé]

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I'm saying they are out of touch and preach at people who know the reality of life on the breadline more.

He's allowed to do it, but it does make him a bit of a condescending prick.

I know a lot of left wing people who endlessly go on about diversity and the like and then bang..have a couple of kids and move to the sticks! They want it for others, less so themselves.

Jimbo, I'm not sure if you're genuinely triggered by Bragg or just acting like a hysterical arse?

Bragg has been involved in politics since the 80s. Think he organised or played a role in Red Wedge. His music and lyrics is heavily influenced by past political events, he did Miners Benefit gigs during the strike, plays the Tolpuddle Martyrs festival a few times and it's not the first time he's advocated tactical voting.

As for him being condescending, why? For having an opinion?

He's different to a number of musicians, one who immediately springs to mind is motor gob Noel Gallagher a few years ago who labelled Corbyn a communist.

Out of the two (Bragg and Gallagher) politics aside, I prefer the perhaps condescending cuunt who has made a few quid but has the interest of others over the massive cuunt who has made more than a few quid, who suddenly has an opinion and is happy to **** off everyone else because it suits him.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Why are people so keen to encourage others how to vote?

Isn't it a personal thing? If someone chooses to share it with you then cool, but surely people should just mind their own? Why do left wing people seem to all "rally around the enemy" ? I voted Labour last time, I'm not particularly over the moon with the Tories but this kind of thing also just puts me off Labour.

It's daft really as no one listens. When it comes to it, away from message boards and pub chats, people vote for what suits them best, or sometimes as a punishment for previous bad performance or on differences of opinion, like Brexit or immigration, they'll try the others, that usually ends in tears and they go back to voting for what suits them best.


The Conservatives lost all their new blue wall from the last Brexit protest, Labour has a chance to retain some protest voters in five years, can they keep them, no chance you wait and see?

[JamesWales]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

Jimbo, I'm not sure if you're genuinely triggered by Bragg or just acting like a hysterical arse?

Bragg has been involved in politics since the 80s. Think he organised or played a role in Red Wedge. His music and lyrics is heavily influenced by past political events, he did Miners Benefit gigs during the strike, plays the Tolpuddle Martyrs festival a few times and it's not the first time he's advocated tactical voting.

As for him being condescending, why? For having an opinion?

He's different to a number of musicians, one who immediately springs to mind is motor gob Noel Gallagher a few years ago who labelled Corbyn a communist.

Out of the two (Bragg and Gallagher) politics aside, I prefer the perhaps condescending cuunt who has made a few quid but has the interest of others over the massive cuunt who has made more than a few quid, who suddenly has an opinion and is happy to **** off everyone else because it suits him.

He's just annoying! Damn Tories! But lives in a Tory place. Hate the rich but surrounds himself with them. Goes on about diversity but doesn't want to live in such an area. Vote Sadiq Khan, but don't live under his jurisdiction.

It's the same with most of my left wing mates. Their views are their own and perfectly valid, it's when slagging off others for alternative views when they are far more at the coalface of life that is rather grating.

Media is full of them. At least I like Billy Braggs music, unlike that pompous arse Emma Thompsons films. When she isn't telling us off about the environment she is flying between her multiple homes!

I am speaking somewhat in jest, but Im sure you get my point, even if you don't agree with it

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

He's just annoying! Damn Tories! But lives in a Tory place. Hate the rich but surrounds himself with them. Goes on about diversity but doesn't want to live in such an area. Vote Sadiq Khan, but don't live under his jurisdiction.

It's the same with most of my left wing mates. Their views are their own and perfectly valid, it's when slagging off others for alternative views when they are far more at the coalface of life that is rather grating.

Media is full of them. At least I like Billy Braggs music, unlike that pompous arse Emma Thompsons films. When she isn't telling us off about the environment she is flying between her multiple homes!

I am speaking somewhat in jest, but Im sure you get my point, even if you don't agree with it

The rich, the famous, the entitled, supporting Labour is their way of showing they care for the little people.

[the other bob wilson]

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So, are we saying that anyone earning less than say Ł25k a year who votes Tory is getting ideas above their station?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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So, are we saying that anyone earning less than say Ł25k a year who votes Tory is getting ideas above their station?

It's not what someone earns that will always suit them best?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

The rich, the famous, the entitled, supporting Labour is their way of showing they care for the little people.

Or pretending they care for the little people to seek popularity among them, they will say what suits them best.

[the other bob wilson]

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It's not what someone earns that will always suit them best?

But if people like Billy Bragg (who I wouldn’t have thought was rolling in money) is seen as a champagne socialist, I don’t get why someone earning less than the average wage who votes Tory doesn’t get the same sort of treatment in reverse -aren’t those who seek to pigeon hole people in such a manner just applying out of date generalisations?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

But if people like Billy Bragg (who I wouldn’t have thought was rolling in money) is seen as a champagne socialist, I don’t get why someone earning less than the average wage who votes Tory doesn’t get the same sort of treatment in reverse -aren’t those who seek to pigeon hole people in such a manner just applying out of date generalisations?

Billy Bragg doesn't care, if he did he would give all of his money away to those needier and live in a council house somewhere, champaign socialists are double-headed bullshitters.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

But if people like Billy Bragg (who I wouldn’t have thought was rolling in money) is seen as a champagne socialist, I don’t get why someone earning less than the average wage who votes Tory doesn’t get the same sort of treatment in reverse -aren’t those who seek to pigeon hole people in such a manner just applying out of date generalisations?

Someone earning Ł25,000 could vote for whatever party will suit him best, it may be a long-term view, hard for him to select at the moment mind, as they are both saying the same things, and Farage is saying what the average not too bright Joe wants to hear.

You would vote labour as they would have increased civil service staff levels and benefits, fair enough you wanted what was best for you, fair enough that's what 99% of people do.

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Billy Bragg doesn't care, if he did he would give all of his money away to those needier and live in a council house somewhere, champaign socialists are double-headed bullshitters.

and there it is, only took 39 posts

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Billy Bragg doesn't care, if he did he would give all of his money away to those needier and live in a council house somewhere, champaign socialists are double-headed bullshitters.

I think you may be confusing him with Jesus.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I think you may be confusing him with Jesus.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Wether it's done tactically or surgically I look forward to the gits getting a good leathering

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

Wether it's done tactically or surgically I look forward to the gits getting a good leathering

A lot of the MP's deserve it to be fair, It won't bother me I'll find the best way to work with what we get!