vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

[Wales-Bales]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

Having a social conscience and being a socialist aren't remotely the same thing. You can be both of course, just like you can have any ideology and have a social conscience.

No, left wing people don't have to be poor, of course not. But when they lecture people about stuff I think they should stop to listen more to what people who are saying a little more.

If the diverse left wing society he extols so much is so good, one would imagine he would choose to live in such a place? Bit like those friends of the working class who turn their noses up at wetherspoons and the like

You just need to study the rise and fall of civilisations, it's all been done before.

[life on mars]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

I couldn't vote for my favoured party, no candidate for Rod's push for PM in the Welsh outback

https://sdp.org.uk/author/rodliddle/

[Elwood Blues]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

https://x.com/billybragg/status/1808...9AIcAC9Zw&s=19

if they end up as the third party then the lib dems would likely be the official opposition.
that could change the political discourse in this country massively

For the worse then though possibly.

We would have left leaning parties as both government and opposition.

I don't believe that would be good balance.

I would however prefer the Conservatives to move back towards the centre,but that seems unlikely

For what it's worth though I think the Tories will get at least 150 seats.

And based purely on the fact that Opinion Polls usually underestimate the vote (look at 2019 where the majority of 80 odd was far more than everybody thought) I would not be surprise if they got 200-220.

And if it that high, there is a higher likelihood of a more centrist Tory party.

No doubt I will have egg on my face tomorrow but its all good fun

[Rjk]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

For the worse then though possibly.

We would have left leaning parties as both government and opposition.

I don't believe that would be good balance.

I would however prefer the Conservatives to move back towards the centre,but that seems unlikely

For what it's worth though I think the Tories will get at least 150 seats.

And based purely on the fact that Opinion Polls usually underestimate the vote (look at 2019 where the majority of 80 odd was far more than everybody thought) I would not be surprise if they got 200-220.

And if it that high, there is a higher likelihood of a more centrist Tory party.

No doubt I will have egg on my face tomorrow but its all good fun

I think they will be the opposition most likely.
nightmare scenario would be they have to merge with Reform to become the 2nd largest party and farsge becomes leader.

well we will know soon enough, I'm off to vote now

[az city]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

Not another low-T bro, how many of you are there?

It was a joke, you moron.

[az city]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

For the worse then though possibly.

We would have left leaning parties as both government and opposition.

I don't believe that would be good balance.

I would however prefer the Conservatives to move back towards the centre,but that seems unlikely

For what it's worth though I think the Tories will get at least 150 seats.

And based purely on the fact that Opinion Polls usually underestimate the vote (look at 2019 where the majority of 80 odd was far more than everybody thought) I would not be surprise if they got 200-220.

And if it that high, there is a higher likelihood of a more centrist Tory party.

No doubt I will have egg on my face tomorrow but its all good fun

I'll take that bet that they won't get 200 seats.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

For the worse then though possibly.

We would have left leaning parties as both government and opposition.

I don't believe that would be good balance.

I would however prefer the Conservatives to move back towards the centre,but that seems unlikely

For what it's worth though I think the Tories will get at least 150 seats.

And based purely on the fact that Opinion Polls usually underestimate the vote (look at 2019 where the majority of 80 odd was far more than everybody thought) I would not be surprise if they got 200-220.

And if it that high, there is a higher likelihood of a more centrist Tory party.

No doubt I will have egg on my face tomorrow but its all good fun

If Tories say they are moderates then they should be voting Liberal

Lots of tory mps in the past have more liberal traits than they do tory

Ken Clarke
Douglas Hurd
Heseltine on occasions
Dominic Grieve


I have patience with these sorts though , Sarah Wollaston at the election before last said she was a liberal leaning tory but voted with the government on some very dodgy stuff

If she had switched camps she probably would have kept her seat

A centrist tory party is still the tory party and if you vote Tory then you are a tory

The future hopefully will see lots more liberal Mps who can suck in the tory vote and work with a moderate labour party

Sadly the tory party will never die but if its just breathing that will be fine

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

I'll take that bet that they won't get 200 seats.

150 I reckon

150 too many

[az city]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

150 I reckon

150 too many

More like 100.

[Hilts]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

For the worse then though possibly.

We would have left leaning parties as both government and opposition.

I don't believe that would be good balance.

I would however prefer the Conservatives to move back towards the centre,but that seems unlikely

For what it's worth though I think the Tories will get at least 150 seats.

And based purely on the fact that Opinion Polls usually underestimate the vote (look at 2019 where the majority of 80 odd was far more than everybody thought) I would not be surprise if they got 200-220.

And if it that high, there is a higher likelihood of a more centrist Tory party.

No doubt I will have egg on my face tomorrow but its all good fun

I think your right.

If I was in the UK I'd be having a wager at 7/1 on the Tories to get between 150-199 seats with a small bet on 40/1 at over 200.

The Tories always do better than polling suggests.

I cant believe there are enough stupid people out there to vote for the feckwit Farage party.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

It was a joke, you moron.

Meet me at The Packet pub, 8pm Saturday. Don't be late!

[delmbox]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

Meet me at The Packet pub, 8pm Saturday. Don't be late!

Rattled

[Wales-Bales]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

https://x.com/billybragg/status/1808...9AIcAC9Zw&s=19

if they end up as the third party then the lib dems would likely be the official opposition.
that could change the political discourse in this country massively

Thanks for this mate, well done, you must be very proud of yourself.

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1859682871876911310/

[Rjk]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

Thanks for this mate, well done, you must be very proud of yourself.

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1859682871876911310/

Extremely pleased we kicked out the tories - thanks for asking

[Wales-Bales]

Re: vote tactically to remove as many Tories as possible

Extremely pleased we kicked out the tories - thanks for asking

And as a bonus you will be able to tell your kids how you helped to bring Blackrock into the UK