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    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You are drowning now

    Stick to the budget criticism you have posted about this blackhole lie

    It's injury time and you are 2 nil down
    UK borrowing costs at highest for a year after Budget https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2n0eeep90o

    Just went 3-2 up in injury time

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      Car tax to double….didnt notice this one she sneaked through…..

      The Government has announced it will increase standard Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) rates for cars, vans and motorcycles in line with inflation

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        The NHS is exempt from the rise in employer National Insurance contributions, but private providers are not.


        GPs and care homes fear impact of National Insurance rise

        The sooner the polarised views of the chosen few realise that the poorer and low paid will be affected just as much “ as the rich” in this budget.

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          Originally posted by goats View Post
          Car tax to double….didnt notice this one she sneaked through…..

          https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...int_source=nba
          This is a fkr cos a lot of people keep an old car going and use it perhaps 10-15 miles a week. Surely that is more sustainable than scrapping?

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            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
            This is a fkr cos a lot of people keep an old car going and use it perhaps 10-15 miles a week. Surely that is more sustainable than scrapping?
            How are these people impacted by the changes?

            The way I read it Vehicle Excise Duty on existing cars rises in line with inflation. From 2025 any new registered car will have the "doubled" rates applied for the first year of registration, before reverting to whatever the rate is for existing cars.

            It is a none too subtle stick to go electric and meet the commitments of phasing out new sole petrol and diesel by 2030 and have only new electric by 2035.

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              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
              Yeah to a small extent. What may it have risen by? £500? £1000? In which case im down about £7-15. That does count for sure, but it just means those of us lucky enough to see a payrise in 2024/25 will just see a lower increase on or payslips, so we don't notice it, which is obviously exactly why they do it.

              I've rarely been impacted that much by budget of changes, but in the past I've been +/- a few hundred quid whereas I don't see that this time.
              Welcome to the great reset! You are now being levelled down, and this is only the beginning.

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                Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                How are these people impacted by the changes?

                The way I read it Vehicle Excise Duty on existing cars rises in line with inflation. From 2025 any new registered car will have the "doubled" rates applied for the first year of registration, before reverting to whatever the rate is for existing cars.

                It is a none too subtle stick to go electric and meet the commitments of phasing out new sole petrol and diesel by 2030 and have only new electric by 2035.
                Don’t think electric is the future, hydrogen is the way to go, much cheaper…..

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                  Originally posted by goats View Post
                  Don’t think electric is the future, hydrogen is the way to go, much cheaper…..
                  Where are you buying it from? What are you powering with it?

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                    Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                    How are these people impacted by the changes?

                    The way I read it Vehicle Excise Duty on existing cars rises in line with inflation. From 2025 any new registered car will have the "doubled" rates applied for the first year of registration, before reverting to whatever the rate is for existing cars.

                    It is a none too subtle stick to go electric and meet the commitments of phasing out new sole petrol and diesel by 2030 and have only new electric by 2035.
                    I think it's just more generally how it's gone in recent years. From an environmental perspective, in the short term, it's a bit questionable as it encourages buying new cars and scrapping older ones artificially early. Obviously a newer car is cleaner but theres an environmental cost to new cars vs keeping one going for a few years, which is what a lot of people on lower incomes do. I dunno, just grates a little. My sister has a massive new car and pays hardly any tax. My mum has a small older car and drives a few miles a week and pays £250 odd a year.

                    There's things usually come with costs and benefits of course.

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                      Originally posted by az city View Post
                      Where are you buying it from? What are you powering with it?
                      It’s for the future, although my mate had a 4 by 4 about 15 years ago that used it. Once they can tank it like formula one cars do with fuel, ie it can crush and not explode, I reckon it will take off as it can be produced easily, anywhere, it’s cheap and no issue for the environment. Of course certain countries won’t be happy about it…

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                        Originally posted by goats View Post
                        It’s for the future, although my mate had a 4 by 4 about 15 years ago that used it. Once they can tank it like formula one cars do with fuel, ie it can crush and not explode, I reckon it will take off as it can be produced easily, anywhere, it’s cheap and no issue for the environment. Of course certain countries won’t be happy about it…
                        There's more chance of you having Soylent Green for tea every Tuesday.

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                          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                          I think it's just more generally how it's gone in recent years. From an environmental perspective, in the short term, it's a bit questionable as it encourages buying new cars and scrapping older ones artificially early. Obviously a newer car is cleaner but theres an environmental cost to new cars vs keeping one going for a few years, which is what a lot of people on lower incomes do. I dunno, just grates a little. My sister has a massive new car and pays hardly any tax. My mum has a small older car and drives a few miles a week and pays £250 odd a year.

                          There's things usually come with costs and benefits of course.
                          Still, at least you got to understand it in the end as opposed to relying on Goats for your headlines!

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                            Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                            Welcome to the great reset! You are now being levelled down, and this is only the beginning.
                            Just the beginning? What has Schwab and the Weffers been doing for the last four years ffs.

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                              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                              Still, at least you got to understand it in the end as opposed to relying on Goats for your headlines!
                              I understand it alright. It is an example of a tax that typically hits the poorer more though, and an environmental led policy that is slightly misguided in its approach perhaps.

                              Longer term it is of course better for us all to lower emissions. In the interim if you are keeping an older car going for longer and not driving much but paying far more tax than the rich guy next door in his new car (hardly built carbon free) then it is understandably frustrating.

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                                Originally posted by goats View Post
                                Car tax to double….didnt notice this one she sneaked through…..

                                https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...int_source=nba
                                That's not correct

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