Evolving or Mutating?

[stevo]

Re: Evolving or Mutating?

Thanks for asking and engaging, it makes a refreshing change. I've got a lot happening at the moment but should have sufficient time to answer you on Monday or Tuesday. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Thanks, no rush. No doubt you’re busy preparing for the imminent apocalypse :thumbup:

[truthpaste]

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BTW I am still waiting (but not with bated breath) for you to square the Big Bang with Genesis.

Many Christians are happy to go with the idea of a big bang which may or may not be true, but it remains (in scientific terms) an idea that still has no substantive details on it's origin or cause. So there is whatsoever no NEED to square the Genesis account with any half baked idea at all. But hearing your views and questions is always helpful.

[truthpaste]

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Thanks, no rush. No doubt you’re busy preparing for the imminent apocalypse :thumbup:

I'm ready for all future events and have been for a few decades, but thanks for the thought.

To answer your questions re science, then all verified things such as the periodic table are naturally accepted by Bible believers; and you can be sure that all serious readers would never expect to find (nor have they ever found) any new factual data that is able to dismiss the testimony given by God in Scripture. It's also interesting to note that science when dealing only in the facts and not speculation, will always point the student towards God rather than away from Him. Fibonacci numbers are one example of this, with such structures being found not only on earth but also visible billions of miles away across universe.

You also mentioned quantum physics; Max Planck (the founder of quantum physics) believed that the order of the universe points towards a God, stating that "for the believer, God stands at the beginning of their speeches; for the physicist, at the end of them".

[jeepster]

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I'm ready for all future events and have been for a few decades, but thanks for the thought.

To answer your questions re science, then all verified things such as the periodic table are naturally accepted by Bible believers; and you can be sure that all serious readers would never expect to find (nor have they ever found) any new factual data that is able to dismiss the testimony given by God in Scripture. It's also interesting to note that science when dealing only in the facts and not speculation, will always point the student towards God rather than away from Him. Fibonacci numbers are one example of this, with such structures being found not only on earth but also visible billions of miles away across universe.

You also mentioned quantum physics; Max Planck (the founder of quantum physics) believed that the order of the universe points towards a God, stating that "for the believer, God stands at the beginning of their speeches; for the physicist, at the end of them".

Structures seen billions of miles away?Total fabrication.

[truthpaste]

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Structures seen billions of miles away?Total fabrication.

The Hubble Space Telescope can see out to a distance of several billions of light-years - link

[jeepster]

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The Hubble Space Telescope can see out to a distance of several billions of light-years - link

Where does it mention structures?
You knew what i was getting at it was not about the ability to see but structures.

[truthpaste]

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Where does it mention structures?
You knew what i was getting at it was not about the ability to see but structures.

What a fruitless argument? Are you really suggesting that planets (for example) are NOT structures?

[Canton Kev]

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I'm ready for all future events and have been for a few decades, but thanks for the thought

Why have you been ready for decades? Why would god warn you of an upcoming apocalypse and then fail to deliver multiple times?

Surely with all the resources out there; a 2000 year old book, lunar eclipses, natural disasters, ancient prophecies and most importantly, complete and utter faith, you’d be able to pinpoint when god’s planning on having his big shindig upstairs with all the believers.

Bit of a dick move from god to leave you in the lurch like that.

[truthpaste]

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Why have you been ready for decades? Why would god warn you of an upcoming apocalypse and then fail to deliver multiple times?

Surely with all the resources out there; a 2000 year old book, lunar eclipses, natural disasters, ancient prophecies and most importantly, complete and utter faith, you’d be able to pinpoint when god’s planning on having his big shindig upstairs with all the believers.

Bit of a dick move from god to leave you in the lurch like that.

Well I can clearly see things are coming to a rapid end, but that could be years, months, days or seconds. But since 1968 I have been ready to meet God, and not because I am good enough, but because I realised I was never going to be good enough! So I thanked Him for dying on a cross so that He could offer me salvation, I asked Him to forgive me and change me; ie I promised to serve Him for the rest of my days and become part of His family.

"Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God"
- (John 1:12).

[Canton Kev]

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Well I can clearly see things are coming to a rapid end, but that could be years, months, days or seconds. But since 1968 I have been ready to meet God, and not because I am good enough, but because I realised I was never going to be good enough! So I thanked Him for dying on a cross so that He could offer me salvation, I asked Him to forgive me and change me; ie I promised to serve Him for the rest of my days and become part of His family.

"Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God"
- (John 1:12).

Well what’s the point of all these bloody X marks the spot lunar eclipses if you can even pin it down to the right century??

Has someone told god he needs to get with the times. Chuck out an email or a social media campaign.

[jeepster]

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Well what’s the point of all these bloody X marks the spot lunar eclipses if you can even pin it down to the right century??

Has someone told god he needs to get with the times. Chuck out an email or a social media campaign.

This is what he does never an answer besides verses from magical book never ever proof of the rising of jesus.
Only he was not there.

[lardy]

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Well I can clearly see things are coming to a rapid end, but that could be years, months, days or seconds. But since 1968 I have been ready to meet God, and not because I am good enough, but because I realised I was never going to be good enough! So I thanked Him for dying on a cross so that He could offer me salvation, I asked Him to forgive me and change me; ie I promised to serve Him for the rest of my days and become part of His family.

"Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God"
- (John 1:12).

Are you a protestant?

[truthpaste]

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This is what he does never an answer besides verses from magical book never ever proof of the rising of jesus. Only he was not there.

He wasn't there, you picked up on that bit, nice one :thumbup:

Loads of proof outside the Bible too, if you care to look.

[jeepster]

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He wasn't there, you picked up on that bit, nice one :thumbup:

Loads of proof outside the Bible too, if you care to look.

Grave robbers.

[truthpaste]

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Well what’s the point of all these bloody X marks the spot lunar eclipses if you can even pin it down to the right century?? Has someone told god he needs to get with the times. Chuck out an email or a social media campaign.

I see, God has to communicate using all the methods approved by you!

The X related to America and warned them of various judgements to come; but fret not, there's been nothing unusual on their news bulletins since that warning :sherlock: