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  • #61
    Re: Jenrick

    Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
    I meant the majority of Folk who are starting to get pissed off are not racist, they just feel their voices are not getting listened too.
    As for increasing foreign aid? Are you for real? Are we a charity for the rest of the world?
    You seem to have plenty of spare time as you seem to be on here most of the day. Why don’t you go into politics and try to practice what you preach?
    Don't get in a strop just because you were stopped in your tracks

    Loads of footage of protestors hurling racist abuse

    The idea of turning back the boats is against maritime law

    Foreign aid is used to stop migration at source ....its mad , as you say , to stop it

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    • #62
      Re: Jenrick

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      Don't get in a strop just because you were stopped in your tracks

      Loads of footage of protestors hurling racist abuse

      The idea of turning back the boats is against maritime law

      Foreign aid is used to stop migration at source ....its mad , as you say , to stop it
      Foreign aid won't stop migration at source. Foreign aid is important but it's a sticking plaster and foreign aid increasing doesn't lead to asylum claims (or immigration generally falling.

      This is becoming a really serious issue and you can't just wave it away like so many have done for so long.

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      • #63
        Re: Jenrick

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        Foreign aid won't stop migration at source. Foreign aid is important but it's a sticking plaster and foreign aid increasing doesn't lead to asylum claims (or immigration generally falling.

        This is becoming a really serious issue and you can't just wave it away like so many have done for so long.
        Its an attempt to reduce migration at source

        Our involvement in Afghanistan and the middle east , over many many years is one of the reasons why people come here

        You cannot stop that , you can only manage it

        Its the way of the world and shouting stop the boats , send em back and all that populist stuff , is not going to reduce immigration

        We cant stop the boats , international maritime law over rules farage and his supporters

        Using basic detention centres on vacant industrial land is a good idea to keep those waiting decisions away from the public .....and clearly the public away from them

        People say we are an island .....close the airports , close the ports

        Well I have asked for ideas rather than just shouting about it ....how can we close the airports , close the ports ?

        Just say.....tomorrow Heathrow is shut , Dover is shut ?

        Or ......keep them partly open and funnel migrants into a holding pen ?

        How's that going to work , practically ? What's the cost ? If the cost of not doing anything is social unrest then why when its said action on all this would cost billions and lead to higher taxes....people whistle and want to talk about the football ?

        Let's hear it

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        • #64
          Re: Jenrick

          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
          Foreign aid won't stop migration at source. Foreign aid is important but it's a sticking plaster and foreign aid increasing doesn't lead to asylum claims (or immigration generally falling.

          This is becoming a really serious issue and you can't just wave it away like so many have done for so long.
          BBC News - Labour's immigration plans at a glance - BBC News
          The government says its proposals will reduce record levels of migration to the UK in recent years.


          Secure borders .....needs lots of investment ....we dont want to fund

          Control immigration numbers and come up with promises that are never met ....tories spent 14 years doing that

          Efficient asylum process ....current government improving this but again costs money ......taxes etc

          Development aid ....goes right to the source of so much migration ....you might think its not up to scratch but thats not the view of those with expertise in this area

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          • #65
            Re: Jenrick



            Far-right agitator or leadership hopeful? MPs call hypocrisy as former minister rails against system he expanded.

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            • #66
              Re: Jenrick

              No one is turning to the guardian on this topic

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              • #67
                Re: Jenrick

                Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                No one is turning to the guardian on this topic
                You have had a rinsing

                Jenrick isnt that bad .....even though hes chilling out with neo nazis

                Now its clear he was more than supportive of hotels in his past life 😆

                You keep going round and round sonny

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                • #68
                  Re: Jenrick

                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  You have had a rinsing

                  Jenrick isnt that bad .....even though hes chilling out with neo nazis

                  Now its clear he was more than supportive of hotels in his past life 😆

                  You keep going round and round sonny
                  What are you jibbering on about now?

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                  • #69
                    Re: Jenrick

                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    What are you jibbering on about now?
                    As Tory Immigration Minister, Robert Jenrick wanted to get "even more" asylum hotels opened. You couldn’t trust them then. You can’t trust them now.


                    Your mate , who apparently isnt doing much wrong by chilling out with nazis , pulled up on his supportbof hotels

                    Which apparently now .....are bad 👎

                    Keep out of that quicksand

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                    • #70
                      Re: Jenrick

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      What are you jibbering on about now?
                      I am merely pointing out that you are a complete hypocrite

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                      • #71
                        Re: Jenrick

                        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                        What are you jibbering on about now?
                        Tom Swarbrick calls shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp out on claims that Labour 'aren’t doing enough’ to process migrant hotel claims.


                        What a whopper

                        The link between right wing tories and the reform foaming mouth crew is like osmosis

                        You being a prime example 😆....its like morph

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                        • #72
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                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CkGaHS5Eo/

                          What a whopper

                          The link between right wing tories and the reform foaming mouth crew is like osmosis

                          You being a prime example 😆....its like morph
                          Again, what are you jibbering on about now?

                          I asked you for some realistic solutions about 48 hours ago. I haven't heard anything. I guess you are alright, jack?

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                          • #73
                            Re: Jenrick

                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            Again, what are you jibbering on about now?

                            I asked you for some realistic solutions about 48 hours ago. I haven't heard anything. I guess you are alright, jack?
                            I know and the solutions of the missing man who was apparently at work , then having his tea .....farage , the conservatives and you ( a combination of all of these ) has been just to criticise the hotels you have all previously backed 😀

                            The link to the current governments migrant policy was linked for you above ....you have been welcome to comment but seem to have been lost ....here's your chance

                            But thats besides the point really ...you think everyone who doesnt agree with your pomposity on this is wrong or not taking a very serious situation ....your words again .....er , seriously

                            Jenrick who you clearly used to support , as a former tory and farage , your new found nuanced friend , are both up to their necks in the fact that they both stir the pot but have come up with nothing

                            Which is exactly what you have done ....whilst laughably suggesting we are the ones not taking this matter seriously

                            You are like a pound shop Victor Meldrew

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                            • #74
                              Re: Jenrick

                              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                              With respect, the mistake here is to label this "far- right" (a grossly overused description at the moment).

                              People protest about things all the time. Its perfectly reasonable to not want to see a local hotel turned into asylum accommodation without having any say on the matter and those concerns will be understandably sent into overdrive once a 14 year old girl is sexually assaulted.

                              I think people would be wise to realise what these protests are in order to draw the full conclusion from it. If you just think it's far-right protesters then it's not understanding the depth of feeling and motivation of those involved.
                              So why were you , concerned about the " children " type and all your mates not out protesting about jenrick setting up all these hotels in 2023 ?

                              😆

                              You have been framed

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                              • #75
                                Re: Jenrick

                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                So why were you , concerned about the " children " type and all your mates not out protesting about jenrick setting up all these hotels in 2023 ?

                                😆

                                You have been framed
                                I've recognized the negatives of unsustainable immigration for years Sludge. Sensible people saw it coming. I don't argue a 2019-2024 Tory position for it any more than I argue a smug home owning liberal who isn't impacted by it position.

                                Its unsustainable as fck. We are at the point now where there is almost no debate about it.

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